To all those who have recently moved up to 5/10 6 max

[nbake]

It's been a crazy ride and it seems like I'm playing pissed off all the time because I don't seem to get anywhere. I'm making 1.22 BB/100 after 4k hands. I know I'm missing bets all over the place because I'm a puss on the river...

I guess I'm just ranting, but I was wondering how you have done on your recent shots at 5/10 and what you think of them.

I think far too often i hit top pair and fail to fold before the showdown when the flop is 3 bet...I've found that most of the dumbasses that play 5/10 will not 3 bet the flop without 2 pair or better, but i still have to see it. I guess i just need reassurance that i'm getting crappy cards or something because i think i should definitely be making more than 1.2 BB/100.

[Alobar]

well I was going to berate you for complaining about a 4K sample size, but for some reason I changed my mind /images/graemlins/smile.gif

My frist 10K hands of 5/10 I made no money. It takes time to get adjusted. read this forum, read the archives of this forum, read them some more. Then reread them. I would have loved a positive win rate after my first 4K hands of 5/10.

Get used to the swings, even if you are a solid 2BB+/100 winner, you will have stretches of 5K+ hands where you are losing money. Learn to accept it.

welcome aboard

[nbake]

Thanks...and i guess that's good to hear. 5/10 six max is way different than running the 3/6 tables and playing mostly heads up/3 way. I will keep reading and posting and check back with you in another 16k hands.

[ctv1116]

Be happy that you are making 1.2BB/100. That's a good winrate. Sheesh. Of course try to always improve it, but don't complain.

[Bluffoon]

I am running well cardwise so far which is alway helpful.

I did do quite a bit of preparation. I played my way up the limits to 3/6 at pokerstars. That practice and what I learned here in the HUSH forum has proved invaluable. Thank you HUSH contributors. This is in my opinion by far the best forum at 2+2.

One of the best things I did was find someone to exchange hands with. Analyzing his work and getting feedback on mine and just the exchange of ideas and general discussion has been worthwhile and while time-consuming I would recommend that everyone do this. So thanks to Jacob for all your insight. I look forward to continuing to work with you.

Regardless I am finding the wide range of competition to be a challenge and I am learning to pay close attention to the quality of my competition and being prepared to adjust quickly. The general level of aggression is more than what I am used to. I have found that sometimes I am able to use this to my advantage but some of the more talented aggressive players give me trouble.

My most common error is overplaying my hand. I am a pretty good blind stealer but I need to work on my blind defense.

Learning to play shorthanded has improved my game tenfold. You have more opportunities to be creative to really play poker.

I like it.

[Michael Davis]

I played more than 4K hands today and am down $$.

-Michael

[RamGad]

Get used to the swings, even if you are a solid 2BB+/100 winner, you will have stretches of 5K+ hands where you are losing money. Learn to accept it.

I didn't realize that the real bad swings were only supposed to last 5000 hands. I have played 20,000 hands this month and am down .5bb/100.

Before this I was at +2.5bb/100 with 60,000 hands. I honestly think I have become a losing player. With the agro players at 5-10 now, I'm calling down a lot more. This month, my wstd is too high at 37.5, but my winrate is a pathetic 45.5. I honestly think I have the odds to call down paired boards for exampe against these LAGs as Ace High seems to be against a total bluff much more than 2/7th (7bbs about average in these pots) of the time one on one. I guess I just feel lost postflop. The main thing I want to know is if anybody that understands standard deviation more than me can interpolate the odds of me being a winning player from the BB/100 data I posted.

[wahooriver]

95% Confidence intervals =

mean + or - 1.96 times Standard Error
Standard Error = Square Root of N (where N is number of 100 hands played)

Example:

I have a mean of 2 BB/100 over 40,000 hands with a standard deviation of 18/100 hands.

First, calculate standard error - 18 divided by 20 (square root of 400) = .9

Now multiply 1.96 * .9 = 1.76.

Thus CI = .24 - 3.76

I hope that helps

[RamGad]

Thanks so much for the response. I'm not quite sure I understand it though. In your example, where did the 2/bb 100 go in the formula?

[Guy McSucker]

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where did the 2/bb 100 go in the formula?


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He calculated a range of 2BB/100 plus or minus 1.76 to arrive at the region of 0.24 to 3.76.

Don't fret too much about a 20k losing spell. Very good players have had worse. Of course you should work on your play etc., but losing over 20k hands isn't cause for alarm by itself, especially if you were winning nicely over the previous 60k.

Guy.

[RamGad]

thanks guy. appreciate that. i should post my full stats and more importantly, some more hands.

[stinkypete]

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This month, my wstd is too high at 37.5, but my winrate is a pathetic 45.5.

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is 37.5 really too high? what's considered standard?

i'm at 42.67% after 9132 hands, with a win rate at showdown of 48.12%. my win rate is currently 6.24BB/100.

i know i'm running good, but am i playing really bad?

[RamGad]

Hey Stinky. I think I'm playing against you right now. I'll PM you with my screen name. Are you playing right now at party?

[djoyce003]

I've got about 10k hands of 5/10 which is also a small sample size, but i had probably 20k of 1/2 before moving up. I'm at 3bb/100 right now. I still see a few too many flops by 2+2 standards, at around 30% instead of 25-28ish, and I don't think i'm raising enough preflop. To me however, the most important key is picking tables that are worth playing at. Do not be afraid to get up after a couple of orbits if you notice that you are at a table with a bunch of TAGS. One other TAG at the table is ok, but that is it. You want loose fish, or LAGS, there just aren't enough spots at the table to make it worth playing with other good players. In fact, I prefer a total rock on my left whose blinds I can steal, and the rest being fish. If you aren't at a good table, leave quickly, just not worth it. To me that is more key than a lot of the other things discussed on here.

[stinkypete]

yeah, that was me.

[PokerNoob]

The swings are huge. I made up my 75 BB deficit I had accumulated over the last 4000 hands in two hours of two tabling yesterday.