1-Table $1000+$65 HU Step Hand: genoa_st v.s VcH1610

[Oluwafemi]

level 9, blinds 300/600, pretty much an all-in fest or fold on every hand.

VcH (about 7100 in chips) raises all-in with 6 3 offsuit and genoa_st (2900) calls with A 3 offsuit HU?

considering the blind level and a chipleader willing to raise all-in on just about every hand, who makes this call with A 3 offsuit HU?

results later.

[partygirluk]

I make this call in <0.00000000000000000000000000001 seconds.

[Tosh]

Sounds like an easy call to me.

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results later.

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You have already given the results though.

[adanthar]

Routine.

[Oluwafemi]

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I make this call in <0.00000000000000000000000000001 seconds.

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*note: this is without knowing VcH has 6 3 offsuit.*

[Oluwafemi]

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Sounds like an easy call to me.

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results later.

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You have already given the results though.

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what are the results then?

[partygirluk]

*note: I can read*

[Tosh]

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what are the results then?

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He called with A3o and was shown 63o.

[partygirluk]

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Sounds like an easy call to me.

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results later.

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You have already given the results though.

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what are the results then?

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You have given all the information that matters. What cards are randomly dealt out on the board is irrelevant and no one cares.

[Oluwafemi]

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*note: I can read*

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i did'nt imply that you could'nt. i'm only making a point of you instantly calling with A 3 offsuit. i, personally, like a push all-in by genoa_st better if he/she's the first one in the pot.

[Oluwafemi]

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what are the results then?

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He called with A3o and was shown 63o.

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[partygirluk]

You have a notably better than random hand v. a random hand when the blinds are so high that you have a good overlay. This is a no brainer.

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i did'nt imply that you could'nt. i'm only making a point of you instantly calling with A 3 offsuit. i, personally, like a push all-in by genoa_st better if he/she's the first one in the pot.

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[skoal2k4]

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You have a notably better than random hand v. a random hand when the blinds are so high that you have a good overlay. This is a no brainer.


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ding ding ding!!! we have a winner!

[burningyen]

Easiest...call...ever.

[Myst]

I like the push and the call by both players. If VcH1610 thought there was no way he could outplay genoa (considering that genoa is on top of the leaderboard right now, that couldnt be far from the truth), then going allin every hand is the only way he eliminates that edge.

Calling with A3 vs a random hand? Use this next time your headsup.

http://www.jazbo.com/poker/huholdem.html

A3 wins 56% of the time. With the blinds that high.... Its a must call.

[tallasudude]

What the hell does the leader board have to do with anything. Everone who has been top 20 on the monthly leader board...heck even top 100 knows it just means you play a lot. A good streak can greatly improve your standing...but not that much.

By the way VcH is pretty fking awesome and I do think he could outplay genoa st any day.

[Myst]

By my accounts, Genoa is a solid player.

And to go to the top of the leaderboard, not only do you have to play a lot of tournaments, you have to WIN a lot of them too.

[tallasudude]

Yea genoa is a solid player and I dont know what the hell VcH's all in with 3 6 was...he probabally folded to genoa past few rounds in the SB and needed to make a stance before he kept gaining ground.

VcH is very very verryyyy good at using the big stack. Genoa is pretty solid but he mostly plays his best late in tournament and on the bubble. He is just "good" heads up considering the stacks.

I do think VcH is a better heads up player then genoa and along with the stack porpotions he just has to gow ith the flow and make sure genoa doesnt get away with more then he deserves.

[lorinda]

I've watched both play quite often.

VcH is highly aggressive when he has chips, and punishes any sign of weakness at all.
If you're new to that level and have never played him before, you'd probably get away with a limp/call with aces.... once.

As they know each other inside out, the play here is standard.
He pushes to make it awkward for genoa if he has two cards 8 or lower, and genoa calls because he doesnt have two cards 8 or lower.

Lori

[Oluwafemi]

the board hits:

10 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif9 /images/graemlins/heart.gif6 /images/graemlins/club.gif3 /images/graemlins/club.gif9 /images/graemlins/spade.gif

VcH: two pair, 9s and 6s
genoa_st: two pair, 9s and 3s

VcH1610 takes pot and win.

[TylerD]

The outcome of the hand is not important, the thinking and justification behind the play is.

[PrayingMantis]

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The outcome of the hand is not important, the thinking and justification behind the play is.

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Unless of course you have a PTRNMP. /images/graemlins/ooo.gif

[Oluwafemi]

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The outcome of the hand is not important, the thinking and justification behind the play is.

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no argument here.

[PrayingMantis]

Since i've received 2 PMs already about this PTRNMP, I guess I should say it's an uncommon abbreviation for "pattern-map", a very old 2+2 joke about an imaginary tool that predicts the coming board-cards on-line. And no, I don't have these for sell.

Pretty much an automatic call, IMO, BTW.

[mackthefork]

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Since i've received 2 PMs already about this PTRNMP, I guess I should say it's an uncommon abbreviation for "pattern-map", a very old 2+2 joke about an imaginary tool that predicts the coming board-cards on-line. And no, I don't have these for sell.

Pretty much an automatic call, IMO, BTW.


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Imaginary, nay I say, I just finished work on PTRNMP v1.02 its 20% more accurate than v1.01 and a snip at only $1,500 I accept cash (used notes only please) and also air tickets to Rio de Janiero. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Regards Mack

[PrayingMantis]

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I just finished work on PTRNMP v1.02 its 20% more accurate than v1.01

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Wow, 20% more accuracy, that's a real improvement. Especially since the original version was at about 0, I think. So now it actually has 0 accuracy. Definitely worth the price.

[mackthefork]

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Wow, 20% more accuracy, that's a real improvement. Especially since the original version was at about 0, I think. So now it actually has 0 accuracy. Definitely worth the price.

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Hey, it will get past the Advertising Standards Agency, thats all I care about. Nice to see your math is in order. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

Regards Mack

[The Yugoslavian]

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Wow, 20% more accuracy, that's a real improvement. Especially since the original version was at about 0, I think. So now it actually has 0 accuracy. Definitely worth the price.

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Hey, it will get past the Advertising Standards Agency, thats all I care about. Nice to see your math is in order. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

Regards Mack

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There is an 'Advertising Standards Agency'? Since when did we start using standards in our work?!? Or is this the agency that makes sure ethics, commonsense, and good taste are thrown out of the window come superbowl time? They're always up in our grill since we try to take into account all three (and fail miserably of course, /images/graemlins/wink.gif )

At least now if my boss comes in she'll see me discussing Advertising, /images/graemlins/grin.gif.

Yugoslav

P.S. Your 20% increase in predictability is nowhere close to the 100% increase I acheived, /images/graemlins/tongue.gif.