Top set, ugly board.

[Sam T.]

How's my line here? Push pre-flop?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (8 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Hero (t1460)
CO (t360)
Button (t1540)
SB (t2040)
BB (t1340)
UTG (t1460)
UTG+1 (t1480)
MP1 (t1420)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, Chillivod calls t20, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t80</font>, CO folds, Button folds, SB calls t70, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to t140</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t400</font>, SB calls t320, BB calls t260.

Flop: (t1220) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets t940 (All-In)</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t1060</font>, SB calls t1060.

Turn: (t4280) 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: (t4280) 2/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t4280

[PapiChulo503]

Please tell me your set held up and that you didnt lose the pot to a straight flush or the A high straight.

[Unarmed]

Looks good. Whether to push PF or not is buy-in dependent.

[david050173]

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Looks good. Whether to push PF or not is buy-in dependent.

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Preflop, I hate to put 1/3 my stack in. I think I either call or bet enough that I am totally commited to this pot.

Post flop, I am never too sure how to play monochrome boards (even worse when the AQ straight is right there). Given you have trips and maybe some redraws, I push (the BB is far more likely to have a straight or flush draw than a made flush) and then worry a bit when the SB calls.

[Benholio]

I would push pre-flop here, or in any situation where I am confident of getting called. By pushing, the most likely outcome is that you get called by one player and play heads up for a ~2800 chip pot. By raising less, you are more likely to be playing a 3-way hand, starting with ~1200 in the pot. The biggest possible pot with the fewest opponents is what you want here.

[Unarmed]

Let me clarify: I push PF if my opponents are incapable of recognizing that raise/push to a reraise screams AA/KK.

[partygirluk]

I think you played this fine Sam. Your RR PF was big enough that anyone calling is likely to be making a mistake. You can not fold this flop given your massive draw and possibility of being ahead.

[assron]

I think it's more of a hope of being ahead than a massive draw... there's 7 outs on the flop and 8 on the turn if it misses. However, I'd be almost certain that at least one and probably two or three of your outs are in the villains' hands. I wouldnt be too psyched about the draw. I would have pushed preflop, but actually might fold this flop and looked for a better opportunity, there's just too much going on here for me.

[goofball]

on the flop there is no way you can do anything but what you did

[Unarmed]

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on the flop there is no way you can do anything but what you did

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No kidding. There's no debating the flop play. Period.

[Sidekick]

I wish I knew the buy-in for this tournament as that can make a big difference in whether the play is good or not.

I think you played this fine.

I would guess you are looking at someone with AA, with them possibly holding the A /images/graemlins/diamond.gif and quite possibly another set.

Even if you are facing a flush you have 7 outs on the turn to improve to beat a flush and if you don't hit on the turn you will have 10 outs on the river to make a full house or better.

With the way the preflop betting went, I would have a hard time putting my opponents on anything other than AA, QQ, JJ, AK and possibly TT.

If BB has the flush on the flop, why would he push all-in? This bet smells to me more like he is trying to push you off of a strong hand or protect a set against a possible flush draw.

The SB call after the 2 all-ins is much more worrisome to me, but you couldn't know that SB was going to call when you pushed all-in.

Folding here just seems too weak to me. Both players could easily be way behind here as opposed to being ahead of your hand.

[Sam T.]

As a group y'all are pretty good.

I had a hard time putting the first push on a big flush - he had TT. The SB was playing AQo (God Bless America!), and his flopped str8 took it down. He may have had the A /images/graemlins/diamond.gif, but when the chips didn't go to me I was too surprised to notice.