Flop a set on a coordinated board....whats my plan? [Archive]

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mtdoak

01-15-2005, 11:04 PM

No real reads, alot of calling stations though.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
Hero calls, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, CO folds, Button folds, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (6 SB) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (6 players)
SB bets, BB folds, Hero raises, UTG+2 calls, MP1 folds, MP3 calls, SB calls.

My hand is very strong, but is uberly sensitive to redraws. Any 8, Q or diamond could ruin my hand. Is my best move simply calling and go nuts if a safe card comes on th turn

Turn: (7 BB) Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (4 players)
SB bets, Hero calls, UTG+2 calls, MP3 calls.

ARRRGGHHH. Ok, i still got outs. Lots of outs.

River: (11 BB) A/images/graemlins/club.gif (4 players)
SB bets, Hero folds, UTG+2 calls, MP3 calls.

I can't even beat a bluff now. Sigh.
Final Pot: 14 BB

PhatTBoll

01-15-2005, 11:54 PM

You need to raise this preflop, especially with your read on the table. Your failure to do so may have cost you this pot.

Harv72b

01-16-2005, 01:26 AM

It seems to me that this hand is one of those cases where it would be better to call the flop bet & then raise on a blank turn. I don't know if that'll help against a bunch of calling stations, but it looks right to me.

Other than that, I think you played it as well as you could have. I don't like a PFR from UTG here against the table you described--you're very unlikely to steal a pot and you're not going to force any overcards out, so you're really just playing for the set anyway.

adamstewart

01-16-2005, 02:00 AM

Keep in mind, the river Ace did nothing to improve someone who already had a King.

Adam

Redeye

01-16-2005, 02:30 AM

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It seems to me that this hand is one of those cases where it would be better to call the flop bet & then raise on a blank turn. I don't know if that'll help against a bunch of calling stations, but it looks right to me.

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Raising the flop seems like an easy value play to me. If people fold after you, you may protect your hand a little. If people cold call you easily have enough equity for it to be profitable. You'll hit a full jouse about 35% by the river making this a pretty easy raise for value.

adamstewart

01-16-2005, 10:52 AM

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You need to raise this preflop, especially with your read on the table. Your failure to do so may have cost you this pot.

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Do you raise pocket 8's from UTG too?

Adam

chesspain

01-16-2005, 12:09 PM

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You need to raise this preflop, especially with your read on the table. Your failure to do so may have cost you this pot.

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This is a really silly comment. There wasn't even a pot yet when Hero acted preflop.