Another expensive mistake.....

[krazyace5]

But it was made by an opponent this time. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

Both calls seemed instant like they had auto call any checked.
After the hand was over he said he hit the wrong button.
Some of these poker lessons can get expensive. /images/graemlins/blush.gif

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.5 BB (6 max, 6 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

SB ($14.25)
Hero ($48.75)
UTG ($49.8)
MP ($58.23)
CO ($18.75)
Button ($6.9)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 3/images/graemlins/club.gif, 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG calls $0.50, MP folds, CO calls $0.50, Button folds, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($2) J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $48.25 (All-In)</font>, UTG calls $48.25, CO calls $18.25 (All-In), SB folds.

Turn: ($116.75) K/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 2 all-in)</font>

River: ($116.75) 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $116.75

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has 3c 3s (full house, threes full of jacks).
UTG has Ad 9s (one pair, jacks).
CO doesn't show.
Outcome: Hero wins $116.75. </font>

[Sephus]

i hate the way you played this.

[TheWorstPlayer]

Of course it's a clown way to play, but apparently he was playing against clowns.

[Biff M.]

In the land of the blind, the one-eyed
man is king /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[boondockst]

Not to think we can understand clowns...but i see he has a few thoughts...which is most likely?

1) I like gambling...i'm upset my awesome hand missed.
2) (some intelligence, just horrid intelligence) I doubt anyone has that jack, my A and 9 are overcards to a paired 3
3) Not understanding that CALLING an all-in is not a way to bluff

[Biff M.]

It was the good old bluff-call.

[TheWorstPlayer]

How much fold equity does that have?

[krazyace5]

I guess I do not understand why I played this wrong.

I was thinking I had a vulnerable full house, so I should get all my money in while I was a favorite. I also knew anyone with a J would call. And say someone had AJ and an A came on the turn(actually even if the had J2 and paired the 2 I was gonna get busted), don't know if I would be layin my hand down anyway.

Can you tell me your thought process and how I could of played this hand better?

Thanks

[Whatchugondo]

Chances that someone has a J are very slim and usually everyone will fold to your all in ($50 into a $2 pot) unless they have a J here. Obviously in this situation it worked out for you but I can't see most people calling your all in bet with anything less than a jack (which is unlikely for them to have). Now conversely if you make a pot sized bet of $2 you are more likely to get a caller or two into a pot where you are the large favorite to win. Also if they do have a Jack you can probably get them all in later in the hand anyways.

[Sephus]

you bet 25x the pot first to act and it doesn't immediately strike you as bad?

you are right in thinking that you should not slowplay this hand. people love slowplaying their open trips, so if the flop gets checked through you only have 2 streets to turn a $2 pot into a $100+ pot.

the only reason this worked, though, is that UTG misclicked.

the problems with pushing like that are you let hands like 77-TT get away, for one. people will call a flop bet hoping to win with ace high, even (it's PP after all). someone might bluff raise you, thinking you wouldn't bet out with a jack and might be trying to protect a 3, there are so many more hands that might put money into the pot if you don't push.

if someone has a jack, they're probably calling you all the way down anyway. if you just slightly overbet the pot, you will have no problem getting allin against a jack, especially because they're likely to raise you at some point. if they're going to fill up, theyre going to fill up, it doesn't really matter if they fill up before or after the money goes in if neither of you are folding (unless a jack falls or something).

basically, the push is bad because you win the money a jack would have given you simply betting aggressively, and miss out on the money from hands that will fold to the push but will give you action if you bet "normal" amounts.

your hand is really not as vulnerable as you think. when you're worried about draws, you're worried about ones that will hurt you when they hit, but not pay you off when they miss. draws that pay you off either way aren't really worth worrying about, just try to get allin by the river.

[krazyace5]

Thanks, Sephus noticed you are in MI, I live in Owosso.
You ever play in Detroit?

[Sephus]

no. AZK (2+2er) plays NL at greektown all the time and he's trying to get me to come sling some black chips, but i dont have the bankroll to play the 2/5/5 (unless i buyin for like 40 big blinds) and the $100 max probably isn't worth my time vs. playing online.

where do you play?

[krazyace5]

Only places I have played live is at the Kewadin in St. Ignace and a casino in Canada at Su St Marie. Besides home games anyway.