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AngelicPenguin
01-15-2005, 03:42 AM
I'm thinking this was the right call (or fold rather), but wanted a second opinion (or third /images/graemlins/wink.gif ) I hesitated a little b/c of the size of the pot.

SB is 26/2.44/.83 through 123 hands
UTG+1 is 60/0/.88 through 51 hands
MP1 is 28/1.14/1.44 through 175 hands


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Preflop: Hero is Button with K/images/graemlins/heart.gif,Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, BB folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (20 SB) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 3-bets</font>, MP2 folds, Hero folds, <font color="#CC3333">SB caps</font>, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (16.50 BB) 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $0.25 (All-In)</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, UTG+1 calls.

River: (20 BB) 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 1 all-in)</font>
UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks.

Final Pot: 20 BB

SoCalPat
01-15-2005, 03:47 AM
You're getting 9-1 to call three cold and you have two clean outs ... both of which may not even be in the deck, but in the hands of other players, given the action to this point.

Easy fold. Good fold. Calling isn't even close to an option here.

bennyk
01-15-2005, 03:47 AM
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Flop: (20 SB) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 3-bets</font>, MP2 folds, Hero folds, <font color="#CC3333">SB caps</font>, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls.


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You're getting 26:3 on your call here, or like 9:1. You're likely drawing to 2 queen outs. Add the likelyhood that it's going to get capped behind (which seems likely since SB is playing very fast), and the fact that you have no suited outs, i think it's ok.

Normally I'll want to show this down, but with SB's postflop aggression at .83 and pfr at 2.4, and facing THREE bets cold, I'm quite sure we're drawing to 2 or fewer outs.

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