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mtdoak
01-14-2005, 11:52 PM
Total Hands: 10,502
Vol. Put in Pot: 18.08
Won $ When Saw Flop: 31.02
BB/100: <font color="red">1.16</font> /images/graemlins/shocked.gif
Went to showdown: 30.82%
Won $ at SD: 50.87
Raise Preflop: 6.18%

Agression Factor:
Preflop: .45
Flop: 2.79
Turn: 2.51
River:1.91

Total: 1.22

Any Glaring problems here? Obviously the BB/100 is dissapointing. My concern, however, is that first I am seeing too many hands, second, not agressive enough preflop, and finally, that I am taking too many hands to showdown and calling too liberally when I do. Please, tear me a new one in any category if needed.

Thanks!

cpk
01-15-2005, 02:14 AM
1 BB/100 is fine for your first 10,000. Maybe we all want to get to 2 BB/100, but you're definitely beating the game.

PFR is definitely on the low side, but it could have to do with the hands you're getting. 6% means you're likely raising with AA-88, AKs-AJs, AKo-AQo. If you're raising with more hands, the problem is distributional and probably not your fault. Review your starting standards and be sure you're getting enough raises in for value.

finally, that I am taking too many hands to showdown and calling too liberally when I do.

Aggression factors seem OK everywhere but PF. You're winning half the hands you're showing down, which means you might not be calling down enough.

Chairman Wood
01-15-2005, 02:16 AM
I think the red means he's losing money.

Chairman Wood
01-15-2005, 02:22 AM
Glaring problems, no. Tinkering here and there, yes. You could use some more PF raising. Review starting hands and also start to think why are you raising PF. Start to think about, raises to isolate, raises to pump the pot, etc.
Also, reviewing of books are always good things to do during bad runs.

eric5148
01-15-2005, 02:26 AM
Let's go over what you raise with preflop.

1 - EP

2 - folded to you in MP

3 - folded to you in LP and SB

My weakness used to be not open raising enough, this might be where you're losing some EV.

Rudbaeck
01-15-2005, 04:33 AM
Went to SD is fine. Preflop raise is the only number that looks off, raise more.

Well, BB/100 is off too, but you can easily run that bad over 10k hands without doing anything wrong. Post hands. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

mtdoak
01-15-2005, 08:00 AM
I put the BB/100 in red simply because I was dissapointed in my results, NOT because its negative.

mtdoak
01-15-2005, 08:05 AM
#1. Early position I limp with any two suited careds 10 or better, any pocket pair. I raise with AQo-AKo, KQs, AKs, AQs, AJs, TT-AA
#2. Folded to me in middle position, I raise with all the above, plus ATs
#3. LP/SB (with it folded to me) I raise with KJs, 77,+ all the above.

Also, I have this nasty problem CC with AQo. A leak?

GrekeHaus
01-15-2005, 11:03 AM
[ QUOTE ]
Total Hands: 10,502
Vol. Put in Pot: 18.08
Won $ When Saw Flop: 31.02
BB/100: <font color="red">1.16</font> /images/graemlins/shocked.gif
Went to showdown: 30.82%
Won $ at SD: 50.87
Raise Preflop: 6.18%

Agression Factor:
Preflop: .45
Flop: 2.79
Turn: 2.51
River:1.91

Total: 1.22

[/ QUOTE ]

My VP$IP is only 13.89% which is much lower than yours, but my went to showdown is 30.48%, which is nearly identical. This means that you aren't calling down enough. My BB/100 is 2.69 after 22,470 (is this sustainable?). I've been told that 7.5% raise preflop is ideal, so you should certainly be raising more preflop. Consider raising with ATs and KJs from any position, and raising with weaker hands such as Axs in late position if nobody's come in yet.

Zetack
01-15-2005, 01:06 PM
What limit are you playing?

PFR is a little low for almost any limit. And no, 7.5 percent is not ideal.

Given that you're winning 50 percent at showdown which is just a tad on the low side, I'd be very wary of advice telling you to call down more.

Its a small sample size, I've had losing streaks longer than 10k hands.

--Zetack

mtdoak
01-15-2005, 01:41 PM
Thanks. I'm playing 2-4 on Empire right now. I'm trying to thicken my skin right now because I get angry when I lose $100 in a session.

Perseus
01-15-2005, 01:48 PM
Easiest way to start winning is to stop open limping.

Honestly, whenever you feel the urge to open-limp, just raise. After you do this for a while you should start to see results, and then you can start open limping from EP with hands like 88 or 99 at loose passive tables.

Also, how many tables are you playing at once? If it's more than 2, cut down for your next 10,000.

GL,
Jon

stinkypete
01-15-2005, 02:58 PM
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My VP$IP is only 13.89% which is much lower than yours, but my went to showdown is 30.48%, which is nearly identical. This means that you aren't calling down enough.

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this makes no sense. if you're looser pre-flop, you should be going to showdown when seeing the flop a smaller percentage of the time.

River2Pair
01-15-2005, 03:05 PM
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PFR is a little low for almost any limit. And no, 7.5 percent is not ideal.

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What assumptions are you making about game conditions to make this statement?