Tunica Grand joins the long line of rooms to give up on 1-2 NLHE

[youtalkfunny]

No more 1-2 NLHE at the Grand. As a dealer, I say, "Good riddance!"

They had a 2-5 NLHE game tonight. Unbelievable action. Last down I dealt, I pushed two different pots >800 to people who had won a showdown with no pair (and I don't mean AK vs AQ--I mean two small flush draws that each moved in on the flop). Last hand I dealt, EP made it $25 to go, and 8 players saw the flop. Somebody told me about a pot that was $250 to go BTF, five-way action.

Compare this to the steady stream of $8 and $9 pots we'd been pushing in the 1-2 NL game.

[Chipr777]

No fear, The Grand will be back to a couple 1-5 stud and 3-6 hold em tables next month.

[bigfishead]

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No fear, The Grand will be back to a couple 1-5 stud and 3-6 hold em tables next month.

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ROFLMAO ....aint it the truth.

[ohkanada]

Thats too bad. The game at the grand last weekend was very good. Lots of big pots and some really weak players.

Ken

[bigfishead]

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Thats too bad. The game at the grand last weekend was very good. Lots of big pots and some really weak players.

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Thats what I saw too. I got all-in fer about $400 preflop in that 1-2 with a guy....My aces held up to his jacks.

[youtalkfunny]

Ken,

Congrats on cashing in one of the Grand tourneys.

Yeah, the 1-2 was great last weekend, but that was the exception.

And even when it's a pretty good game, it's a loser for the house. See the thread that compares it to 1-3 stud, where no one disagrees with that assessment. Also see Mason's essays on the effect it has on the poker economy. Finally, see the thread where Caesar's Indiana stopped spreading the game, mostly because many of their once-a-week regulars turned into once-a-month regulars when they started losing their money by the bucketful.

Chip and Fishead seem happy to hear that they get to deal more 1-2 NL. Like I said, they can have it.

Fishead, let me ask you something: Every thread that mentions the Grand, you come charging in to start bashing. Yet the last two posts that you made, where you mention playing, where did you choose to go? I know that house rules prohibit you from playing at the Shoe. But you still had options, and you chose the Grand.

So please, just give me a break from all the "Yeah, they're a joke!" posts, because if people vote with their feet, it seems like the Grand has your vote.

(I'm not here to shill. If I were, I wouldn't do it by discussing a game that we DON'T offer. I stay out of all the "Where should I play in Tunica?" threads. I hated it when I had to shill in the sportsbetting forums when I worked for a struggling off-shore sportsbook, so I'm certainly not going to shill for a successful American casino. I knew posting the words "Tunica Grand" would open the door to the bashers; I almost didn't do it, but I thought the decision to drop 1-2 NL was worthy of discussion. Silly me, thinking that this thread would be about the game of 1-2 NL and the business of running a poker room, and not about the Grand. Finally, nothing posted here was incorrect--after the WPO, we will go back to 1-5 stud and 4-8 HE, and probably 2-4 HE, with 10-20 on weekends, and "the pink chip game" popping up randomly. I don't see anything wrong with that. I know I'll regret making this post, but all the "Ha ha, they're a joke!" posts from someone who chose to play at the Grand over all the other available local cardrooms just stinks, IMO, and I just couldn't help myself.)

Since this has turned into another "bash the Grand" thread, my good friend Randy should be here any minute. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Randy_Refeld]

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Since this has turned into another "bash the Grand" thread, my good friend Randy should be here any minute.

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Well I didn't really have much to add to this thread. I have been involved in promting NL in the past. The game is viable if there is a steady stream of hotel guests to feed the action. With NL being played on TV some players want to play NL. NL also has the attraction of allowing someone to bet what they want when they want instead of having to correct their bet sizes etc. In today's market I would spread fixed buy-in NL games that help avoid the problems Mason has pointed out in the past.

As far as bashing the Grand, I stand by my assessment that the management is unfamiliar with the rules nad procedures of poker.

Randy Refeld

[steamboatin]

Didn't the current poker room manager come from Caesars In?

[Randy_Refeld]

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Didn't the current poker room manager come from Caesars In?

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Yes she did. If you have never played in California you will be happy at the Grand. If you have become accoustomed to Indiana poker the Grand won't seem so bad; if you are used to how they do things at the Horseshoe, in California, or most of Vegas you will not like the Grand.

Randy Refeld

[steamboatin]

I don't like Caesar's In very much but it is close to my home. I love Tunica. I usually stay at the Gold Strike. Next trip down I want to play at the Shoe.

[Randy_Refeld]

Yes play at the shoe, there is a large drop off from the shoe to the Goldstrike. The Goldstrike recently changed poker room managers and the change has been for the better. The GOldstrike has some peopel working there that could work in any room in the country, but they also have some peopel taht aren't very good, so it is hit and miss. At the shoe I have never seen anyone walk the floor that didn't have at least a basic understanding of the rules and procedures.

Randy Refeld

[bigfishead]

Firstly let me clear one thing up about 1-2 nl without a cap buy-in. It is bad for the room....any room. I have said that many many times.

Also, not that I need to check in with you before I go play somewhere, but you dont see where my "sessions" are played. You just saw two recent ones. And yes it is limited to whats available in the area. If I was not at the shoe working there would be no question I would get alot more poker time in by playing at the shoe. The games are good. You know that. As for the "several other rooms in the area" you know my truths about them...2-4?....or Hollywood 3-6? no thanks. So what that leaves is GS and Grand. GS has the 1-2 fish tank often so I look there first. Lately they have had the 2-5nl too. Again it is bad for the room but good for the better players. I dont play it unless the lineup is right but the results have been no losing sessions as yet.
And recently Grand had 1-2nl...took me 1/2hr to win $500. I loved that. But it will bust your regulars.

What precisely have I bashed of the Grand? The Tournaments! I have stated on numerous occasions they have no clue how to run and structure a tournament. That is true. And you have an odd rule in the Grans that I find very interesting...the Players have decided to tell the mgmnt that they dont want employees that play in a game to check raise? hmmm....is this poker? The players are certainly happy to throw one in. But dont let someone that is working there C/R. Where I come from, the only places that have rules like that are the ones struggling to keep what little business they have. Maybe because other aspects are not looked over carefully to attract and keep the players. hmmm.

I love the 10-20 at the Grand. Very soft. But I dont often get over there when it is runing. there just isnt enough game selection in the area.

However, I also play at the GS. two days ago I literally busted the 2-5 nl within 10 minutes of sitting down. I broke the fish and players got up. I just didnt mention it here as a recent session.

I'm running late got to go to work....seeya soon.

[youtalkfunny]

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I'm running late got to go to work....seeya soon.

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I was wondering why I got off so easy. /images/graemlins/smile.gif