Some AQo hands....

[mtdoak]

I'm about 8000 some hands in with poker tracker, and I noticed that AQ is very marginally profitable for me (actually, unprofitable until this morning), where AJ and AK are both veyr profitable.

Help!

A) Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+2 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO calls, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, CO calls, Button calls, BB folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (9.25 BB) K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, CO folds, Button calls, Hero calls.

I think this is a terrible turn call here by me. I have one overcard and a 3 out straight draw, 4 outs max. True, I am getting 11-1 +impied odds (I figure I can collect at least 2 BB if i hit my 10), I still think this should be an easy fold.

River: (12.25 BB) Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, Button folds, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 14.25 BB

Even after my terrible turn card, was the river call right here? Any hand he could raise me with after the flop (AJ-J10, or an overpair) the ONLY thing I can beat is a flush draw


B) Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises</font>, MP1 folds, Hero calls, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, UTG calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG folds, UTG+2 calls.

Turn: (5.75 BB) 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG+2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+2 calls.

River: (7.75 BB) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG+2 checks, Hero checks.

Nothings funner than runner runner...

Final Pot: 7.75 BB

C) Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif. CO posts a blind of $2.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO (poster) calls, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds.

Flop: (5.50 SB) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif, 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls.

Turn: (3.75 BB) 9/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls.

River: (5.75 BB) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls.

Comments on being out of position here. Played right?

Final Pot: 7.75 BB

Comments on all hands and all streets appreciated

[Rico Suave]

mtdoak:

A. Check the flop.

B. Fold preflop. Postflop is fine.

C. I don't like the river bet. Check and call or fold, and I think you can fold.

--Rico

[BWebb]

1) 5 players and you missed. Check the flop and go from there.

2) Depending on the player, you either 3-bet or fold preflop. Against most 2/4 players, I 3-bet. The rest is fine.

3) I give up on the river. Check and call.

[rmarotti]

Nobody votes for betting the river on hand 2?

[chief444]

No.

[rmarotti]

Is it just flush fear? Or is there something else I'm missing?
I thought this would be a bet/fold to a raise situation.

[PokerBob]

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I think this is a terrible turn call here by me. I have one overcard and a 3 out straight draw, 4 outs max. True, I am getting 11-1 +impied odds (I figure I can collect at least 2 BB if i hit my 10), I still think this should be an easy fold.

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You make an articulate, sound argument for calling and then say it's a bad move? I'm confused. This is an easy call, IMO.

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Even after my terrible turn card, was the river call right here? Any hand he could raise me with after the flop (AJ-J10, or an overpair) the ONLY thing I can beat is a flush draw


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I think this call is fine. You only need to be good 1 in 14 here. The villain called two cold on the flop. He could easily have AJ, which you beat.


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Nothings funner than runner runner...


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Hand 2: I bet this river and fold to a raise.


Hand 3: I think I play it the same way.

[chief444]

I can't think of too many worse hands that call. Any equal or better hands do call. And I think you're behind more than half of the time.