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StableHand
01-13-2005, 10:22 AM
NOT a bad-beat story, just wondering if my reasoning was wrong:

Stars, $50+5 rebuy. I'm 8/47 halfway into 2nd hour, more than half the field gone. $250 invested.

First hand at new table, no reads on CO. I'm thinking big A or TT, want to see a flop and get away if it's broadways. OK?
Flop, In hindsight I'm thinking the raise gives him just about even odds to call, or he's thinking he might be ahead. His call is correct? The better option here would have been to push? Stacks are not deep enough for anything in between. I'm thinking tho, I have some folding equity if he re-raises with the tens, or if the turn is a face. I think this line of thought is flawed and I should have had the heart to push, at the same time I din't wanna commit my whole stack at this point. On the turn, I'm 95% sure I'm boss, villain has 60% of his stack invested but can still get away, and I have no option but to push (too late). Pot is giving him 4-1 on a 5-1 draw, so almost correct call; but not one I'd do in his spot. Would he have been better off re-raising the turn?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (8 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

SB (t14410)
BB (t2381)
UTG (t10000)
UTG+1 (t3875)
MP1 (t9582)
MP2 (t15025)
<font color="#C00000">CO (t7618)</font>
<font color="#C00000">Hero (t11484)</font>

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to t800</font>, Hero calls t800, SB folds, BB folds.

Flop: (t1775) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 7/images/graemlins/club.gif, 6/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">CO bets t1600</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t3600</font>, CO calls t2000.

Turn: (t8975) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t3200</font>, CO calls t3193 (All-In).

River: (t15368) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t15368

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
CO has Ac Qd (two pair, queens and sevens).
Hero has 9d 9s (two pair, nines and sevens).
Outcome: CO wins t15361. Hero wins t7. </font>

Next hand re-raise all in with ATs against KJo, flop rags, turn T, river J. Early bath.

Cheers.

tiger7210
01-13-2005, 10:41 AM
I don't thin you played this poorly, your opponent did and got lucky. He had no business calling your raise on the flop with nothing but 2 overs. He then called your push with nothing as a 5-1 dog. His play may have been correct in a ring game based solely on pot odds, but not in a tournament. Your only mistake was maybe a slightly bigger raise on the flop or push if you knew you would push the turn on a non-paint card coming off. If your read was overcards then push and make him pay for the draw. He still has over 5000 left behind to fold.

jslag
01-13-2005, 11:24 AM
You have --

1) A good hand
2) Position
3) Big stack

Your opponent min-raised, he could easily just be on a steal here. In this scenario, I would have re-popped him and made it about 2400. Unless he's got a monster like AA-QQ, a re-raise from a big stack in position is going to be scary for him. Perfect time to apply some pressure. You have some folding equity and will pick up a nice little pot if he's weak.

I don't mind your line given how the hand played out. He made a horrible call on the flop.

Sam T.
01-13-2005, 01:03 PM
I probably would have raised all-in on the flop, and hoped he wasn't sitting on TT, but you gave him every chance to fold, and he wouldn't do it. It's cold comfort, but Sklansky and Harrington would point out that you made money on this hand.

Punker
01-13-2005, 01:10 PM
I would reraise preflop as his position is too obvious a steal spot. Something like to 2000 should suffice, allowing you to bet another 2K on the flop and be done with the hand one way or the other.