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milesdyson
01-12-2005, 10:49 PM
Curiosity strikes.

I know I'm hitting the bad side of variance with certain pairs, so I just want to see what the everyones' average winning percentages are. I'm not expecting yours to match up with mine at all; I'd just like to see what I can expect over the long run. FWIW these numbers are only through 15-25 hands with each pair and I know that is a tiny sample.

AA: 64.7
KK: 76.2
QQ: 43.8
JJ: 15.8
TT: 26.7
99: 16.7
88: 26.3
77: 33.3
66: 19.1
55: 11.8
44: 0
33: 11.1
22: 7.1

KingOtter
01-12-2005, 10:55 PM
I only have 5k hands, so you might want to discount mine (but are about the same number of times each, 18-30)

AA 66.67
KK 65.00
QQ 62.50
JJ 57.69
TT 50
99 47.06
88 36
77 17.39
66 47.06
55 47.06
55 5.88
44 14.29
33 15.00
22 8.00

KO

milesdyson
01-12-2005, 11:21 PM
Anyone else?

My QQ-99 is specifically where I feel I'm getting the [censored] end of the variance stick. My bad play on some of these hands doesn't help much.

Shillx
01-12-2005, 11:42 PM
Okay this is from a variety of levels. 90% are from the 10,000/20,000 games that i currently 24-table. /images/graemlins/shocked.gif

QQ: 55%
JJ: 57%
TT: 41%
99: 26%

This is from 187-214 samples of each. Can you say, running bad?? I can.

Brad

Marquis
01-12-2005, 11:55 PM
Around 70 of each, all at Party .5/1:
AA: 72
KK: 62
QQ: 59
JJ: 54
TT: 39
99: 42
88: 21
77: 21
66: 23
55: 16
44: 21
33: 11
22: 13

88 is my only loser.

4JStickMan
01-13-2005, 12:23 AM
i've got about 15k hands total
About average 70 of each of these and here is the win %
AA 78
KK 52
QQ 62
JJ 60
TT 49
99 37
88 18
77 34
66 29
55 15
44 18
33 11
22 16

Surprisingly my money losers are KK and 88 everything else is in + , I chalk the KK up to just plain bad luck so far

milesdyson
01-13-2005, 12:37 AM
Well it's good to see that everyones' numbers are higher (sometimes 4x higher) than mine are for QQ-99. At least it gives me an excuse.

_Kevin_
01-13-2005, 12:40 AM
Over about 40,000 hands at $0.50/$1 & $1/$2 (an average of about 190 times for each hand).

AA: 76
KK: 66
QQ: 59
JJ: 50
TT: 45
99: 46
88: 34
77: 26
66: 26
55: 19
44: 17
33: 11
22: 12

33 & 22 are my only losers

Marquis
01-13-2005, 12:42 AM
StickMan, you are kicking my butt on all but two hands. What's your BB/hand for the group as a whole?

milesdyson
01-13-2005, 01:55 AM
That's a good question and something I forgot to mention.

My BB/hand for pocket pairs is 0.22.

JJ is -1.89 BB/hand, TT and 99 are about -1 BB/hand.

KingOtter
01-13-2005, 01:59 AM
Mine is 1.24 BB/hand ... losers are 77 (.24), 55 (.02), 44 (.13), 33 (.01). Biggest winner is QQ 3.28/hand.

KO

Play Up Pompey
01-13-2005, 02:04 AM
This is after apprx 36K hands, primarily .5/1, 1/2 and 1/2 (6 max) on Party.

AA-70
KK-62
QQ-55
JJ-53
TT-48
99-37
88-39
77-35
66-26
55-27
44 and below-less than 25

Pretty consistant with everyone else.

First post after a year and a half of lurking!

milesdyson
01-13-2005, 02:04 AM
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Mine is 1.24 BB/hand ... losers are 77 (.24), 55 (.02), 44 (.13), 33 (.01). Biggest winner is QQ 3.28/hand.

KO

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Wow.

1.24 BB/hand would be about 1 BB/and more than I'm averaging. Meaning over my tiny sample size of 224 pocket pairs, I'd have another 224 BB.

That 224 BB over my 4000 hands amounts to another 5.6 BB/100, which would put me well above <font color="red">(0.11)</font>, lol.

That's pretty much the kind of information I wanted to get out of this. Thanks.

davelin
01-13-2005, 02:15 AM
After like 44K of 1/2

AA - 80
KK - 68
QQ - 62
JJ - 58
TT - 46
99 - 33
88 - 22
77 - 24
66 - 18
55 - 13
44 - 17
33 - 12
22 - 11

milesdyson
01-13-2005, 04:22 AM
Any of you guys willing to post your BB/hand for the pairs just for more comparison?

Thanks

ucfryan
01-13-2005, 04:43 AM
Over 10K hands

Hand: Win % BB/Hand
AA: 82.6% 4.46
KK: 71.8% 3.31
QQ: 61.7% 2.18
JJ: 51.2% 1.32
TT: 43.4% .83
99: 39.56% .71

88-55 are small losers, 44 is 3.6% .2, 33 is 7.14% .08, 22 is 6.98% .31.

davelin
01-13-2005, 12:36 PM
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Any of you guys willing to post your BB/hand for the pairs just for more comparison?

Thanks

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I will when I get the chance at home.

Crveballin
01-13-2005, 01:03 PM
[ QUOTE ]
Any of you guys willing to post your BB/hand for the pairs just for more comparison?

Thanks

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Only after 6,000: Used it for what you can...

AA 66.67% 2.93/Hand
KK 77.27% 3.73/Hand
QQ 66.67% 3.10/Hand
JJ 62.96% 1.34/Hand
TT 61.11% 2.04/Hand
99 34.62% 0.74/Hand
88 38.71% 1.62/Hand
77 36.67% 0.60/Hand
66 13.79% (0.56)/Hand
55 37.04% 1.57/Hand
44 23.08% 0.88/Hand
33 25.00% 0.09/Hand
22 6.90% (0.12)/Hand