citanul
01-12-2005, 09:56 PM
A friend played a tournament this afternoon, and while I didn't get to see all the hands, I feel instinctively that he must have screwed up several times playing the incredibly short stack poker, with 3 short stacks and 1 huge stack. I was hoping that anyone with any clue about Limit O8 could give some opinions on the endgame of this tournament. The following is all the 4 handed poker from the tournament, I apologize that it is long.
Friend is the poster ALG, who just posted one of these hands. Sorry about the formatting, I neither have the link to the converter, nor know if it works for o8. Big stack indeed had been getting run over by cards quite a bit, and was a caller.
G123Joel finished in fifth place.
200/400 TourneyOmahaHiLoGameTable (Limit) - Wed Jan 12 20:11:41 EST 2005
Table Table 10887 (Real Money) -- Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: juseetheflop (4885)
Seat 2: jm45694 (625)
Seat 3: vegasnevada (1110)
Seat 9: HERO (1380)
juseetheflop posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Kc, Ac, 9d, Kd ]
jm45694 folds.
vegasnevada calls (200)
HERO raises (400) to 400
juseetheflop folds.
vegasnevada calls (200)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Qd, 2c, 3s ]
vegasnevada checks.
HERO bets (200)
vegasnevada calls (200)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 6c ]
vegasnevada checks.
HERO checks.
** Dealing River ** : [ 8c ]
vegasnevada checks.
HERO bets (400)
vegasnevada calls (400)
** Summary **
Main Pot: 2200
Board: [ Qd 2c 3s 6c 8c ]
juseetheflop balance 4685, lost 200 (folded)
jm45694 balance 625, didn't bet (folded)
vegasnevada balance 1210, bet 1000, collected 1100, net +100 [ Tc 6h Ah Qh ] [ LO: 8,6,3,2,A | HI: two pairs, queens and sixes -- Qh,Qd,8c,6h,6c ]
HERO balance 1480, bet 1000, collected 1100, net +100 [ Kc Ac 9d Kd ] [ a flush, ace high -- Ac,Kc,8c,6c,2c ]
200/400 TourneyOmahaHiLoGameTable (Limit) - Wed Jan 12 20:12:37 EST 2005
Table Table 10887 (Real Money) -- Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: juseetheflop (4685)
Seat 2: jm45694 (625)
Seat 3: vegasnevada (1210)
Seat 9: HERO (1480)
jm45694 posts small blind (100)
vegasnevada posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Kc, Ks, 8h, 6d ]
HERO raises (400) to 400
juseetheflop calls (400)
jm45694 folds.
vegasnevada folds.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Ah, 4c, 7c ]
HERO checks.
juseetheflop bets (200)
HERO calls (200)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 2h ]
HERO checks.
juseetheflop checks.
** Dealing River ** : [ 4h ]
HERO checks.
juseetheflop bets (400)
HERO folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1900
Board: [ Ah 4c 7c 2h 4h ]
juseetheflop balance 5585, bet 1000, collected 1900, net +900
jm45694 balance 525, lost 100 (folded)
vegasnevada balance 1010, lost 200 (folded)
HERO balance 880, lost 600 (folded)
200/400 TourneyOmahaHiLoGameTable (Limit) - Wed Jan 12 20:13:15 EST 2005
Table Table 10887 (Real Money) -- Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: juseetheflop (5585)
Seat 2: jm45694 (525)
Seat 3: vegasnevada (1010)
Seat 9: HERO (880)
vegasnevada posts small blind (100)
HERO posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 8c, 4c, 9d, 8d ]
HERO : kk
juseetheflop: full house
HERO : and a straight draw that missed
juseetheflop calls (200)
jm45694 folds.
vegasnevada calls (100)
HERO checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Qh, 9h, Ac ]
vegasnevada checks.
HERO checks.
juseetheflop bets (200)
vegasnevada folds.
HERO folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 800
Board: [ Qh 9h Ac ]
juseetheflop balance 5985, bet 400, collected 800, net +400
jm45694 balance 525, didn't bet (folded)
vegasnevada balance 810, lost 200 (folded)
HERO balance 680, lost 200 (folded)
200/400 TourneyOmahaHiLoGameTable (Limit) - Wed Jan 12 20:14:14 EST 2005
Table Table 10887 (Real Money) -- Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: juseetheflop (5985)
Seat 2: jm45694 (525)
Seat 3: vegasnevada (810)
Seat 9: HERO (680)
HERO posts small blind (100)
juseetheflop posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 6s, 7d, 3c, 7h ]
jm45694 folds.
vegasnevada folds.
HERO folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 300
juseetheflop balance 6085, bet 200, collected 300, net +100
jm45694 balance 525, didn't bet (folded)
vegasnevada balance 810, didn't bet (folded)
HERO balance 580, lost 100 (folded)
200/400 TourneyOmahaHiLoGameTable (Limit) - Wed Jan 12 20:14:30 EST 2005
Table Table 10887 (Real Money) -- Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: juseetheflop (6085)
Seat 2: jm45694 (525)
Seat 3: vegasnevada (810)
Seat 9: HERO (580)
juseetheflop posts small blind (100)
jm45694 posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Tc, 4s, Th, Td ]
vegasnevada folds.
HERO folds.
juseetheflop raises (300) to 400
jm45694 folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 600
juseetheflop balance 6285, bet 400, collected 600, net +200
jm45694 balance 325, lost 200 (folded)
vegasnevada balance 810, didn't bet (folded)
HERO balance 580, didn't bet (folded)
200/400 TourneyOmahaHiLoGameTable (Limit) - Wed Jan 12 20:14:45 EST 2005
Table Table 10887 (Real Money) -- Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: juseetheflop (6285)
Seat 2: jm45694 (325)
Seat 3: vegasnevada (810)
Seat 9: HERO (580)
jm45694 posts small blind (100)
vegasnevada posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Ah, 5s, 6h, 8c ]
HERO raises (400) to 400
juseetheflop raises (600) to 600
jm45694 folds.
vegasnevada folds.
HERO calls (180)
HERO is all-In.
Creating Main Pot with $1460 with HERO
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 6s, 3h, Jc ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 2c ]
** Dealing River ** : [ Kh ]
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1460 | Side Pot 1: 20
Board: [ 6s 3h Jc 2c Kh ]
juseetheflop balance 6435, bet 600, collected 750, net +150 [ 9h 5d 9c Jh ] [ a pair of jacks -- Kh,Jh,Jc,9h,6s ]
jm45694 balance 225, lost 100 (folded)
vegasnevada balance 610, lost 200 (folded)
HERO balance 730, bet 580, collected 730, net +150 [ Ah 5s 6h 8c ] [ LO: 6,5,3,2,A | HI: a pair of sixes -- Ah,Kh,Jc,6h,6s ]
200/400 TourneyOmahaHiLoGameTable (Limit) - Wed Jan 12 20:15:21 EST 2005
Table Table 10887 (Real Money) -- Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: juseetheflop (6435)
Seat 2: jm45694 (225)
Seat 3: vegasnevada (610)
Seat 9: HERO (730)
vegasnevada posts small blind (100)
HERO posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 7s, 4h, Jd, Qh ]
juseetheflop folds.
jm45694 bets (225)
jm45694 is all-In.
vegasnevada calls (125)
HERO calls (25)
Creating Main Pot with $675 with jm45694
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 8d, 5h, 9s ]
vegasnevada checks.
HERO checks.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 2c ]
vegasnevada checks.
HERO checks.
** Dealing River ** : [ Qs ]
vegasnevada checks.
HERO checks.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 675 |
Board: [ 8d 5h 9s 2c Qs ]
juseetheflop balance 6435, didn't bet (folded)
jm45694 balance 338, bet 225, collected 338, net +113 [ 5s As Qd Ah ] [ two pairs, queens and fives -- Qd,Qs,9s,5s,5h ]
vegasnevada balance 722, bet 225, collected 337, net +112 [ 6d 4d Jc 2s ] [ LO: 8,6,5,4,2 | HI: a pair of twos -- Qs,Jc,9s,2s,2c ]
HERO balance 505, lost 225 [ 7s 4h Jd Qh ] [ LO: 8,7,5,4,2 | HI: a pair of queens -- Qh,Qs,Jd,9s,8d ]
300/600 TourneyOmahaHiLoGameTable (Limit) - Wed Jan 12 20:16:00 EST 2005
Table Table 10887 (Real Money) -- Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: juseetheflop (6435)
Seat 2: jm45694 (338)
Seat 3: vegasnevada (722)
Seat 9: HERO (505)
HERO posts small blind (150)
juseetheflop posts big blind (300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 9h, 7d, 9c, Kd ]
jm45694 folds.
vegasnevada folds.
HERO folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 450
juseetheflop balance 6585, bet 300, collected 450, net +150
jm45694 balance 338, didn't bet (folded)
vegasnevada balance 722, didn't bet (folded)
HERO balance 355, lost 150 (folded)
300/600 TourneyOmahaHiLoGameTable (Limit) - Wed Jan 12 20:16:17 EST 2005
Table Table 10887 (Real Money) -- Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: juseetheflop (6585)
Seat 2: jm45694 (338)
Seat 3: vegasnevada (722)
Seat 9: HERO (355)
juseetheflop posts small blind (150)
jm45694 posts big blind (300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 8d, Ad, Jc, 9h ]
vegasnevada folds.
HERO bets (355)
HERO is all-In.
juseetheflop calls (205)
jm45694 folds.
Creating Main Pot with $1010 with HERO
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Js, 5c, 6d ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 2c ]
** Dealing River ** : [ Tc ]
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1010 |
Board: [ Js 5c 6d 2c Tc ]
juseetheflop balance 7240, bet 355, collected 1010, net +655 [ Ac 7d 2s 6h ] [ LO: 7,6,5,2,A | HI: two pairs, sixes and twos -- Js,6h,6d,2s,2c ]
jm45694 balance 38, lost 300 (folded)
vegasnevada balance 722, didn't bet (folded)
HERO balance 0, lost 355 [ 8d Ad Jc 9h ] [ LO: 8,6,5,2,A | HI: a pair of jacks -- Ad,Jc,Js,Tc,6d ]
Friend is the poster ALG, who just posted one of these hands. Sorry about the formatting, I neither have the link to the converter, nor know if it works for o8. Big stack indeed had been getting run over by cards quite a bit, and was a caller.
G123Joel finished in fifth place.
200/400 TourneyOmahaHiLoGameTable (Limit) - Wed Jan 12 20:11:41 EST 2005
Table Table 10887 (Real Money) -- Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: juseetheflop (4885)
Seat 2: jm45694 (625)
Seat 3: vegasnevada (1110)
Seat 9: HERO (1380)
juseetheflop posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Kc, Ac, 9d, Kd ]
jm45694 folds.
vegasnevada calls (200)
HERO raises (400) to 400
juseetheflop folds.
vegasnevada calls (200)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Qd, 2c, 3s ]
vegasnevada checks.
HERO bets (200)
vegasnevada calls (200)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 6c ]
vegasnevada checks.
HERO checks.
** Dealing River ** : [ 8c ]
vegasnevada checks.
HERO bets (400)
vegasnevada calls (400)
** Summary **
Main Pot: 2200
Board: [ Qd 2c 3s 6c 8c ]
juseetheflop balance 4685, lost 200 (folded)
jm45694 balance 625, didn't bet (folded)
vegasnevada balance 1210, bet 1000, collected 1100, net +100 [ Tc 6h Ah Qh ] [ LO: 8,6,3,2,A | HI: two pairs, queens and sixes -- Qh,Qd,8c,6h,6c ]
HERO balance 1480, bet 1000, collected 1100, net +100 [ Kc Ac 9d Kd ] [ a flush, ace high -- Ac,Kc,8c,6c,2c ]
200/400 TourneyOmahaHiLoGameTable (Limit) - Wed Jan 12 20:12:37 EST 2005
Table Table 10887 (Real Money) -- Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: juseetheflop (4685)
Seat 2: jm45694 (625)
Seat 3: vegasnevada (1210)
Seat 9: HERO (1480)
jm45694 posts small blind (100)
vegasnevada posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Kc, Ks, 8h, 6d ]
HERO raises (400) to 400
juseetheflop calls (400)
jm45694 folds.
vegasnevada folds.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Ah, 4c, 7c ]
HERO checks.
juseetheflop bets (200)
HERO calls (200)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 2h ]
HERO checks.
juseetheflop checks.
** Dealing River ** : [ 4h ]
HERO checks.
juseetheflop bets (400)
HERO folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1900
Board: [ Ah 4c 7c 2h 4h ]
juseetheflop balance 5585, bet 1000, collected 1900, net +900
jm45694 balance 525, lost 100 (folded)
vegasnevada balance 1010, lost 200 (folded)
HERO balance 880, lost 600 (folded)
200/400 TourneyOmahaHiLoGameTable (Limit) - Wed Jan 12 20:13:15 EST 2005
Table Table 10887 (Real Money) -- Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: juseetheflop (5585)
Seat 2: jm45694 (525)
Seat 3: vegasnevada (1010)
Seat 9: HERO (880)
vegasnevada posts small blind (100)
HERO posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 8c, 4c, 9d, 8d ]
HERO : kk
juseetheflop: full house
HERO : and a straight draw that missed
juseetheflop calls (200)
jm45694 folds.
vegasnevada calls (100)
HERO checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Qh, 9h, Ac ]
vegasnevada checks.
HERO checks.
juseetheflop bets (200)
vegasnevada folds.
HERO folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 800
Board: [ Qh 9h Ac ]
juseetheflop balance 5985, bet 400, collected 800, net +400
jm45694 balance 525, didn't bet (folded)
vegasnevada balance 810, lost 200 (folded)
HERO balance 680, lost 200 (folded)
200/400 TourneyOmahaHiLoGameTable (Limit) - Wed Jan 12 20:14:14 EST 2005
Table Table 10887 (Real Money) -- Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: juseetheflop (5985)
Seat 2: jm45694 (525)
Seat 3: vegasnevada (810)
Seat 9: HERO (680)
HERO posts small blind (100)
juseetheflop posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 6s, 7d, 3c, 7h ]
jm45694 folds.
vegasnevada folds.
HERO folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 300
juseetheflop balance 6085, bet 200, collected 300, net +100
jm45694 balance 525, didn't bet (folded)
vegasnevada balance 810, didn't bet (folded)
HERO balance 580, lost 100 (folded)
200/400 TourneyOmahaHiLoGameTable (Limit) - Wed Jan 12 20:14:30 EST 2005
Table Table 10887 (Real Money) -- Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: juseetheflop (6085)
Seat 2: jm45694 (525)
Seat 3: vegasnevada (810)
Seat 9: HERO (580)
juseetheflop posts small blind (100)
jm45694 posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Tc, 4s, Th, Td ]
vegasnevada folds.
HERO folds.
juseetheflop raises (300) to 400
jm45694 folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 600
juseetheflop balance 6285, bet 400, collected 600, net +200
jm45694 balance 325, lost 200 (folded)
vegasnevada balance 810, didn't bet (folded)
HERO balance 580, didn't bet (folded)
200/400 TourneyOmahaHiLoGameTable (Limit) - Wed Jan 12 20:14:45 EST 2005
Table Table 10887 (Real Money) -- Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: juseetheflop (6285)
Seat 2: jm45694 (325)
Seat 3: vegasnevada (810)
Seat 9: HERO (580)
jm45694 posts small blind (100)
vegasnevada posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Ah, 5s, 6h, 8c ]
HERO raises (400) to 400
juseetheflop raises (600) to 600
jm45694 folds.
vegasnevada folds.
HERO calls (180)
HERO is all-In.
Creating Main Pot with $1460 with HERO
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 6s, 3h, Jc ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 2c ]
** Dealing River ** : [ Kh ]
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1460 | Side Pot 1: 20
Board: [ 6s 3h Jc 2c Kh ]
juseetheflop balance 6435, bet 600, collected 750, net +150 [ 9h 5d 9c Jh ] [ a pair of jacks -- Kh,Jh,Jc,9h,6s ]
jm45694 balance 225, lost 100 (folded)
vegasnevada balance 610, lost 200 (folded)
HERO balance 730, bet 580, collected 730, net +150 [ Ah 5s 6h 8c ] [ LO: 6,5,3,2,A | HI: a pair of sixes -- Ah,Kh,Jc,6h,6s ]
200/400 TourneyOmahaHiLoGameTable (Limit) - Wed Jan 12 20:15:21 EST 2005
Table Table 10887 (Real Money) -- Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: juseetheflop (6435)
Seat 2: jm45694 (225)
Seat 3: vegasnevada (610)
Seat 9: HERO (730)
vegasnevada posts small blind (100)
HERO posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 7s, 4h, Jd, Qh ]
juseetheflop folds.
jm45694 bets (225)
jm45694 is all-In.
vegasnevada calls (125)
HERO calls (25)
Creating Main Pot with $675 with jm45694
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 8d, 5h, 9s ]
vegasnevada checks.
HERO checks.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 2c ]
vegasnevada checks.
HERO checks.
** Dealing River ** : [ Qs ]
vegasnevada checks.
HERO checks.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 675 |
Board: [ 8d 5h 9s 2c Qs ]
juseetheflop balance 6435, didn't bet (folded)
jm45694 balance 338, bet 225, collected 338, net +113 [ 5s As Qd Ah ] [ two pairs, queens and fives -- Qd,Qs,9s,5s,5h ]
vegasnevada balance 722, bet 225, collected 337, net +112 [ 6d 4d Jc 2s ] [ LO: 8,6,5,4,2 | HI: a pair of twos -- Qs,Jc,9s,2s,2c ]
HERO balance 505, lost 225 [ 7s 4h Jd Qh ] [ LO: 8,7,5,4,2 | HI: a pair of queens -- Qh,Qs,Jd,9s,8d ]
300/600 TourneyOmahaHiLoGameTable (Limit) - Wed Jan 12 20:16:00 EST 2005
Table Table 10887 (Real Money) -- Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: juseetheflop (6435)
Seat 2: jm45694 (338)
Seat 3: vegasnevada (722)
Seat 9: HERO (505)
HERO posts small blind (150)
juseetheflop posts big blind (300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 9h, 7d, 9c, Kd ]
jm45694 folds.
vegasnevada folds.
HERO folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 450
juseetheflop balance 6585, bet 300, collected 450, net +150
jm45694 balance 338, didn't bet (folded)
vegasnevada balance 722, didn't bet (folded)
HERO balance 355, lost 150 (folded)
300/600 TourneyOmahaHiLoGameTable (Limit) - Wed Jan 12 20:16:17 EST 2005
Table Table 10887 (Real Money) -- Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: juseetheflop (6585)
Seat 2: jm45694 (338)
Seat 3: vegasnevada (722)
Seat 9: HERO (355)
juseetheflop posts small blind (150)
jm45694 posts big blind (300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 8d, Ad, Jc, 9h ]
vegasnevada folds.
HERO bets (355)
HERO is all-In.
juseetheflop calls (205)
jm45694 folds.
Creating Main Pot with $1010 with HERO
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Js, 5c, 6d ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 2c ]
** Dealing River ** : [ Tc ]
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1010 |
Board: [ Js 5c 6d 2c Tc ]
juseetheflop balance 7240, bet 355, collected 1010, net +655 [ Ac 7d 2s 6h ] [ LO: 7,6,5,2,A | HI: two pairs, sixes and twos -- Js,6h,6d,2s,2c ]
jm45694 balance 38, lost 300 (folded)
vegasnevada balance 722, didn't bet (folded)
HERO balance 0, lost 355 [ 8d Ad Jc 9h ] [ LO: 8,6,5,2,A | HI: a pair of jacks -- Ad,Jc,Js,Tc,6d ]