Funny O'Reilly Moment

[elwoodblues]

Heard this on Franken's show. Pretty funny.

When interview one of the Swift Boat Veterans For Truth, O'Reilly discussed his credentials as follows:

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You volunteered for two tours of duty, so you're a patriot. There's no question about that. You're a Purple Heart recipient...

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Anyone else spot the irony of saying a swifty is a patriot because he volunteered for service and was a recipient of a purple heart?

[Felix_Nietsche]

Not really.....Did Bill O'Reilly say John Kerry was not patriotic?

If you can show me a quote where Bill said John Kerry was not patriotic, then I will concede your point. But...I don't think such a quote exists....

[elwoodblues]

So the swifties go to great lengths to discredit Kerry's service. They attack whether he deserved his purple heartss (note that they obviously don't believe the existence of a medal or voluntary service made Kerry a patriot.)

Now, evidence of one of their member's patriotism is, you guessed it: voluntary service and purple heart.

I guess your irony detector isn't as strong as mine.

[Broken Glass Can]

Did he say this vet got his Purple Heart for minor scratches?

If not, then it is not comparable.

Did this vet turn against the common soldier when he returned to the states?

If not, then it is not comparable.

[elwoodblues]

Didn't say it was comparable. I said it was ironic.

[Broken Glass Can]

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Didn't say it was comparable. I said it was ironic.

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I understand that, but I wanted to make the point that this Vet and John Kerry are not in the same league. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[zaxx19]

Heard this on Franken's show. Pretty funny.....

The beginnings of many a great posting on the internet...especially when the post deals with Bill O reilly. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Felix_Nietsche]

I didn't know anyone listened to Al Franken's radio show.

I use to listen to Alan Colmes, but he started becoming less logical and more emotional about 4 months before the election. It is a shame for he was one of the few liberals who were able to make a well reasoned argument...

[cardcounter0]

"... but I wanted to make the point that this Vet and John Kerry are not in the same league."

I can agree with that!
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Top Ten Differences Between Rush and G. Gordon Liddy

10. Liddy speaks 5 languages. - Rush grunts when he sees food.

9. Liddy is a pilot, an attorney and White House lawyer. - Rush is a drug addict.

8. Liddy takes calls and faxes from Democrats. - Rush has a "sheep only" policy.

7. Liddy never tried suicide-by-food.

6. Liddy hasn't had 3 wives reject him.

5. Liddy has a black belt in martial arts. - Rush slurs innocent people to death.

4. Liddy didn't have a cyst on his ass that kept him from fighting in a war he felt was "very just."

3. Liddy regularly has a liberal on, Lanny Davis. - Rush is afraid to debate.

2. Liddy apologized to Secretary Donna Shalala for his "best & brightest" screwup. Rush said "That's her problem."

And the number one, biggest difference between the Rush and Liddy is......

1. Rush would NEVER get in a fair debate.

[Wake up CALL]

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I guess your irony detector isn't as strong as mine.


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Not only that there is zero irony involved. Perhaps a definition might be in order. Hint: For even a smidgen of irony the Swift boat veteran would need to be the one claiming to be a patriot (using the specified criteria) not Bill O'Reilly by proxy.

[Felix_Nietsche]

Patriotism is defined as love of country....
Many Americans questioned John Kerry's 'love of country' (patriotism) by his actions AFTER the Vietnam war....

As for the purple hearts, many of his 'band of brothers' were highly critical about whether he deserved some of his purple hearts.... It takes a special talent, to alienate so many people in just four months of combat....

No one questions the swift boat vet credentials...... And no questions Bush43's love of country...

[elwoodblues]

I try to listen to a lot of talk radio. Local conservative talk (am1500.com), Limbaugh, Hannity, and some of the stuff on Air America. All in all it's fairly entertaining. You should give it a try.

[elwoodblues]

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No one questions the swift boat vet credentials

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You're getting closer...some assume that a swifty is patriot because of his service and purple heart. The same assumption isn't made of a liberal who went on to serve his country in other capacities for much of his life.

[elwoodblues]

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Not only that there is zero irony involved. Perhaps a definition might be in order

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Incongruity between what might be expected and what actually occurs

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Still works for me. What definition did you want to use?

[Wake up CALL]

I do believe that for something to be ironic (using the archaic rarely used definition which you chose) it must be intrinsically ironic and not dependent on the perspective of the observer. Your example fails this test.

[lastchance]

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I do believe that for something to be ironic (using the archaic rarely used definition which you chose) it must be intrinsically ironic and not dependent on the perspective of the observer. Your example fails this test.

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Incongruity between what might be expected and what actually occurs.

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It isn't that great an irony though. Not incredibly funny, IMHO. Still, the point stands.