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Nick Royale
01-12-2005, 01:56 PM
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Preflop: Hero is MP1 with J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 3-bets</font>, MP3 calls, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">BB caps</font>, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (17.50 SB) 3/images/graemlins/club.gif, 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, MP3 folds, BB calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (11.75 BB) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls, MP2 calls.
<font color="green">MP2 has been aggressive on every street, so I smooth call to trap both of them for one more bet. If BB hadn't bet out this tactic might be better cause MP3 might get scared by BB betting out and slow down. But without BB betting out I feel MP2 would bet the turn after I check. Comments?</font>

River: (14.75 BB) T/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls, BB calls.
<font color="green">This couldn't have got any worse... Comments on all streets appreciated. </font>

Final Pot: 17.75 BB

Entity
01-12-2005, 02:07 PM
I'd fold preflop once it's two cold back to me (you probably should too).

Raise the turn.

Rob

nolanfan34
01-12-2005, 02:22 PM
[ QUOTE ]
I'd fold preflop once it's two cold back to me (you probably should too).

Raise the turn.

[/ QUOTE ]

I agree with both parts here. Although I end up calling two cold and seeing a flop a lot in this situation, because I'm a calling MACHINE!

Anyway, the pot is big already, making MP2 less likely to fold to your raise. If you get lucky, he may even 3-bet, or BB may do so, pumping the pot even more. I think that scenario will happen often enough with a PF 3-better and capper still in the hand to outweigh going for the overcalls on the turn.

ArturiusX
01-12-2005, 08:23 PM
You didn't feat the A /images/graemlins/diamond.gif I take it?

Raise the turn.

bottomset
01-12-2005, 09:43 PM
getting fancy in 13BB pots is almost always wrong

kenberman
01-12-2005, 10:12 PM
I'm sure he didn't, for good reason