Lame Ass Challenge day 4/10. Ah the sweet taste of victory. [Archive]

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DBowling

01-12-2005, 08:35 AM

I went to the carshow earlier today. It was [censored] sweet. I got to sit in a porsche, and i want one. So bad. Maybe in a year, if poker goes well. The boxster S is about 53k base, 70k with all the nice stuff. I would love to get the carrera, but thats 440k... yea thats not happening any time soon.
I forgot my camera! Sorry for no pictures. We were driving towards the show for 20 minutes and my dad was like "did you remember your camera?" Doh. I wasnt gonna have him go 40 minutes out of our way to get it, ill try to remember next year.

Today's session went great. I played for 8-9 hours, 6 max. I really like these tables. Theres plenty of maniacs, check hands below if you dont believe me.

Total hands played today: 3,564
Net $: $401.16
Word. Finally... a decent bring in. Im very happy about it. 6 max is g00t. Now for some hands...

Hand #1 This is against a maniac. 80% vpip 40% pfr. Yes, this blows away any maniac youve ever seen, i know. He is running over the game, i decide now is the time to make a stand

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 5 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

saw flop|saw showdown

Hero ($57.1)
MP ($58.6)
Button ($193.75)
SB ($86.8)
BB ($49)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.5.
Hero raises to $4, MP folds, Button calls $4, SB (poster) calls $3.50, BB folds.

Flop: ($13) 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 2/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $11, Button calls $11, SB folds.

Turn: ($35) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $15, Hero calls $42.10 (All-In), Button folds.

Final Pot: $92.10
Main Pot: $92.10, returned to Hero.

Hand #2 Another butchered AK hand? I hate this hand. I play it so poorly when in an unraised pot.

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saw flop|saw showdown

Button ($53)
Hero ($49)
BB ($67.6)
UTG ($220.81)
MP ($108.15)
CO ($118.8)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif. Hero posts a blind of $0.5.
UTG calls $1, MP calls $1, CO calls $1, Button calls $1, Hero (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($6) 3/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif (6 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG bets $1, MP raises to $2, CO folds, Button calls $2, Hero raises to $7, BB folds, UTG folds, MP calls $5, Button calls $5.

Turn: ($28) 9/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)
Hero checks, MP checks, Button checks.

River: ($28) A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $10, Button folds, Hero calls $10.

Final Pot: $48
Main Pot: $48, between Hero and MP.

Hand #4 Im not sure i like this raise under the gun. Im not sure about my action. Four to a straight, two flush draws out, what should i do?

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saw flop|saw showdown

SB ($57.95)
BB ($17.7)
Hero ($160.2)
MP ($24.5)
Button ($59.55)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.5.
Hero raises to $5, MP folds, Button folds, SB (poster) calls $4.50, BB folds.

Flop: ($11) A/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $8, SB calls $8.

Turn: ($27) K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
SB bets $5, Hero calls $5.

River: ($37) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
SB bets $5, Hero calls $5.

Final Pot: $47
Main Pot: $47, between SB and Hero.

Hand #5 I really [censored] this hand up at first, then it turned good, then it turned bad. When the PF raiser checked it to me, i bet out, which is pretty standard for me depending on my opponent. Thing is, i didnt realize there was another player in the hand! Oops. But he just called and my miracle card came on the turn. Then the river brings the 8 which makes any T a straight. Villian only has 10 left, im not sure if check call or put him all in is more +ev, but its probably close.

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saw flop|saw showdown

SB ($49)
Hero ($61.55)
UTG ($73.8)
MP ($230.81)
CO ($50.85)
Button ($115.65)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.5.
UTG calls $1, MP folds, CO calls $1, Button folds, SB (poster) raises to $3.5, Hero calls $3, UTG folds, CO calls $3.

Flop: ($13) J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $9, CO calls $9, SB folds.

Turn: ($31) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $28, CO calls $28.

River: ($87) 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero calls $20.55 (All-In), CO calls $9.85 (All-In).

Final Pot: $117.40
Main Pot: $106.70, between Hero and CO.
Pot 2: $10.70, returned to Hero.

Hand #6 pretty basic, but this is one of those hands that you will never guess what villian had. ever ever. Ever. Ever ever. Hint: i won

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saw flop|saw showdown

Hero ($59.35)
Button ($108.37)
SB ($63.38)
BB ($55.85)
UTG ($21.85)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 3/images/graemlins/club.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.5.
UTG folds, Hero calls $1, Button raises to $6, SB (poster) folds, BB folds, Hero calls $5.

Flop: ($13.50) K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $8, Hero raises to $27, Button calls $19.

Turn: ($67.50) K/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
Hero calls $26.35 (All-In), Button calls $26.35.

River: ($120.20) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $120.20
Main Pot: $120.20, between Hero and Button.

TheWorstPlayer

01-12-2005, 09:08 AM

Just to keep the tradition going (I think we operate on similar schedules (which may mean there is something wrong with yours, since I am in Australia)).

Hand 1: Nice. What was your plan if you didn't hit an A or Q on the turn?
Hand 2: I am really getting annoyed at you. There is, lemme see, a flush draw AND a straight draw on the board and you raise how much? $5 into a $13 pot. Sheesh.
Hand 4 (I see neither of us are good at counting from 1 to 4): I think 5-handed your raise is fine. The play of the hand seems to me to be opponent dependent. If he is tight-passive, I like your line. If he is loose, I would raise the turn.
Hand 5: What can he have that you are beating? Some combination of AKT and some other random hand like low suited connectors. I think your play is okay, but I would definitely check/call the river since he's not calling with anything you can beat even though it's only $10. We finally saw a decent turn bet from you, though, so I'm happy about that. I honestly don't know what villain has here because I can't think of a single holding for which his play makes sense. If he is on a draw on the turn, he shouldn't call that turn bet and if he isn't, he should certainly raise all-in. Strange.
Hand 6: He had 66 and didn't believe you had a K. Or else he had 24 (possibly /images/graemlins/spade.gif) and was on the straight (and flush) draw. Guessing those are too reasonable if we will never ever ever ever guess it.

DBowling

01-12-2005, 09:28 AM

i appreciate you "keeping the tradition". You give good advice, and i look forward to someone criticing me. I live in california, so yes, my sleep is sort of messed up. I normally wake up around noon-1pm, sometimes later. Once i start playing poker(normally late afternoon, early evening), i dont like to stop, as i play better with a deep stack and i dont fatigue easily. Most of my sessions dont end until 2-4am, and then i post before i fall asleep and forget everything that happened.

Hand 1: If my card doesnt hi? I shat myself, check fold, then leave the table. Seriously this guy was ruining my night. I couldnt stand it. Ive never seen anyone play like this online, but ive seen it live. It drives me nuts. but at least live, there are normally more maniacs so the pots are multiway as opposed to all of these being uncontested or heads up.

hand 2 hmm, i thought it was a decent raise, but once you compare it to the size of the pot, youre right, awfully tiny. i really wasnt sure if i had the best hand here, the other tables were going crazy. Its funny, i had to edit out all of the alerts "You have options at table...". There were so many it messed up the converter. So i think this was just me being rushed and not knowing where i am at.

Hand 4? wtf. i wonder if there used to be a hand 3 but i accidently edited it out. no additional comments on the hand at this moment

hand 5 you dont think he calls his last $10 with any queen or any two pair? thats why i think its close.

hand 6 the hands you mentioned make way too much sense. and they dont even make any sense once you consider he was the PFR.

ok sleep now, hopfully more comments in the morning. thanks TWP, i appreciate it.

TheWorstPlayer

01-12-2005, 09:37 AM

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hand 5 you dont think he calls his last $10 with any queen or any two pair? thats why i think its close.

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If you are behind, it is definitely going in. If he has a Q or two pair and he will bet it if checked to, then it is definitely going in. So the only marginal hands are a Q or two pair that he will call with but not bet and complete crap that he may take a final shot with if checked to but won't call a dime with. I agree it is probably close.

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hand 6 the hands you mentioned make way too much sense. and they dont even make any sense once you consider he was the PFR.

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I know he's the preflop raiser, that's why I thought they didn't make too much sense. OK, how about a strangely played AA since you seem to be implying that the preflop raise made sense?

soah

01-12-2005, 09:53 AM

On hand 5 your opponent will call with more hands than he'll bet with on the river. And you can't fold if he bets. So you have to put the money in yourself.

On hand 6 he had 76.

Wayfare

01-12-2005, 10:35 AM

Hand 1: I don't raise AQo UTG even in six-max against LAGS. I call his bet assuming that I will be ahead if I hit a queen or an ace, and then ramp it up from there. I sort of like the play if you think he has a queen because he might think his kicker doesn't play, but you are damn sure he is calling with any king. Risky.

Hand 2: I like it, if you don't have fold equity on the turn. If it's heads up, then I bet 2/3 of the pot and fold to a raise.

Hand three: Bet the full pot or over the pot on the flop. I like the fact he let you (pretty much) check it down. That was nice.

Hand four: The draw-heavy flop makes me give up on this hand completely on the flop. Your results illustrate the worst case scenerio.

Sponger15SB

01-12-2005, 11:32 AM

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On hand 6 he had 76.

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ha! yeah right....

when Dbowl showed me the hand history I asked him if the guy misclicked on every street.

boondockst

01-12-2005, 11:49 AM

I hope it forever continues...but what fun people have trying to catch low gutshots i will never know....i'd be embarassed to show one down....

DBowling

01-12-2005, 06:40 PM

im confused about hand four. i am the preflop raiser and flop top and bottom pair, i am so post to give it up on the flop? or after the flop?
On the turn he bets $5 into a $27 pot, he might play a draw like this 1 in 6 times, right? I dont know, i am admitedly bad at folding to small bets into large pots.

DBowling

01-12-2005, 06:47 PM

See, 76 makes more sense than what villian actually had. Everything you guys suggested makes more sense because at least he would actually have outs then (or at least he could think he had outs).
Villian had T/images/graemlins/club.gif9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, and was drawing to runner runner straight on the flop, and completely dead on the turn. Im not saying villian is a thinking player, but if he even thought for a second about the hand, what could he possibly think i had to call my turn bet after the board pairs with kings? "oh maybe he has 88 and my overcards are good?" WTF? Ah well, free money is always nice.
After the hand, one of the other people at the table commented "Nice call, [censored]"

amoeba

01-12-2005, 06:47 PM

I dislike hand 1 the most. bluffing in to lags is not a good idea.

I think hand 2 is fine.

DBowling

01-12-2005, 06:48 PM

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On hand 5 your opponent will call with more hands than he'll bet with on the river. And you can't fold if he bets. So you have to put the money in yourself.

On hand 6 he had 76.

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hand 5, i agree

hand 6, close

DBowling

01-12-2005, 09:48 PM

hand 1: he folds
hand 2: Q/images/graemlins/club.gif5/images/graemlins/club.gif(flush)
hand 4: AQ (bigger two pair)
hand 5: ATo (rivered straight, no flush draw)
hand 6: T9o!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (ten high)