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jedi

01-12-2005, 03:21 AM

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

I was one of these players. How did we do? I'll post my thoughts after a few responses.

CO ($100)
Button ($85.60)
SB ($41.80)
BB ($78)
UTG ($31.30)
UTG+1 (Player B) ($26.10)
MP1 ($101.40)
MP2 ($39.55)
Player A ($91.35)

Preflop: CO posts a blind of $1.
1 fold, UTG+1 (Player B) raises to $2, MP1 calls $2, MP2 calls $2, Player A calls $2, 1 fold, Button calls $2, 1 fold, BB calls $1.

Flop: ($13.50) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 4/images/graemlins/club.gif (6 players)
BB checks, Player B checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, Player A checks, Button checks.

Turn: ($13.50) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif (6 players)
BB checks, Player B bets $1, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, Player A raises to $8, Button folds, BB folds, Player B calls $7.

River: ($29.50) 2/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
Player B checks, Player A bets $17, Player B calls $16.10 (All-In).

Final Pot: $62.60

Results in white below: 
Player B has Tc Jc (flush, jack high).
Player A has 5c Ac (flush, ace high).
Outcome: Player A wins $62.59.

ericlambi

01-12-2005, 03:46 AM

Before I look at the results . . . Player B played the hand poorly.

Pre-flop: stoopid min-raises.
Turn: stoopid $1 bet into $13 pot.
River: If he had a hand strong enough to call a bet that big, it was dumb that he wasn't betting. I really hope he didn't have 22 or river a club draw (my money is on this).

Player A seemed to play sanely, but I don't know what he has. Probably a hand with a 6 a 9 or both.

TheWorstPlayer

01-12-2005, 04:24 AM

Actually, I think player A's play is potentially brilliant, depending on whether he thought on this level or not. Player B has min-raised preflop. That always says to me either a pocket pair or some gimpy hand like QJs or JTs. Now, if it is a pocket pair, they will almost always bet the flop hoping the other guy has overs and didn't connect. This guy didn't bet the flop. That says to me that he has the gimpy hand. But wait, what's this? He is betting very very weakly on the turn? Hmm...maybe he has picked up a draw and wants me to give him odds to draw for it. Well, now there is a club draw on the board, so if that is it then it fits very well with him having a gimpy QJ/images/graemlins/club.gif. Given that this is the case, Player A has the better hand and should give odds to draw to the club (in which case he'll take his stack) but not odds to draw to the overcards. Perfect raise.

If Player A thought that he was bluffing on the turn, I don't like it.

Edit: BTW, I know you are Player A.

jedi

01-12-2005, 12:48 PM

My comments:

Thanks for the replies guys.

Yes, I was player A. After the hand, player B said "Stupid [censored] fish!" Of course, I just responded with "lol" as he left the table.

I think the turn raise was the biggest worry here. The $1 bet into the pot really didn't seem right to me, and by that it's "I want you to fold," not "I have a monster." So I raise on the turn with my flush draw and I'm fully prepared to 1) fold to a reraise and 2) check behind on the river if I don't improve.

I thought that he wouldn't have been able to call unless he had a 6, and if he did, he'd probably come over the top of me.

TheWorstPlayer

01-12-2005, 07:30 PM

So you don't like how I put him on his hand from the min-raise preflop, huh?