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David04

01-11-2005, 07:08 PM

Ultimate Bet 0.01/0.02 Hold'em (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.01.
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, Hero raises, CO calls, Button folds, SB (poster) calls, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (14 SB) 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif (7 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 bets, MP1 calls, Hero raises, CO folds, SB folds, BB folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (11 BB) 9/images/graemlins/club.gif (4 players)
UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 folds.

River: (14 BB) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players)
UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls.

Final Pot: 16 BB

A prime example of betting for value when a scare card comes on the river. Helped me pick up an extra bet. SSHE rocks my world.

Any comments on the play of this hand?

rafct

01-11-2005, 07:24 PM

I think I would play the same way, but not sure about the preflop raise.. dont like KJ unsuited very much

wcsherry

01-11-2005, 07:27 PM

does SSH advocate raising PF with KJo from MP3 after three limpers? I'm pretty sure this is not a correct play?

David04

01-11-2005, 07:31 PM

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does SSH advocate raising PF with KJo from MP3 after three limpers? I'm pretty sure this is not a correct play?

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You are probably correct but old habits die hard /images/graemlins/wink.gif

Still working on that kind of stuff....but SSHE has helped my game big time.

soko

01-11-2005, 07:32 PM

Hey I dont see a scare card /images/graemlins/confused.gif

rafct

01-11-2005, 07:35 PM

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Hey I dont see a scare card

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I guess it is the third spade..
Hey I was wondering even about folding preflop, is that way too tight???

David04

01-11-2005, 07:38 PM

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Hey I dont see a scare card

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I guess it is the third spade..
Hey I was wondering even about folding preflop, is that way too tight???

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YES. An unraised pot with 3 limpers? No way I can fold here...

wcsherry

01-11-2005, 07:38 PM

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Hey I was wondering even about folding preflop, is that way too tight???

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No, this is not way too tight. If a raise were to come after you bet you're easily holding a dominated hand. I'm limping here though after 3 players already limped and hoping that a TAG player does not raise behind me.

David04

01-11-2005, 07:41 PM

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Hey I was wondering even about folding preflop, is that way too tight???

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No, this is not way too tight. If a raise were to come after you bet you're easily holding a dominated hand. I'm limping here though after 4 players already limped and hope that a TAG player does not raise behind me

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A TAG? In a .01/.02 game?? I can't tell if you are joking /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

But yeah, this is an obvious limp, at least.

wcsherry

01-11-2005, 07:45 PM

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A TAG? In a .01/.02 game?? I can't tell if you are joking

But yeah, this is an obvious limp, at least.

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lol, forgot this was .01/.02 - just started playing 1/2 and plays like make me cringe when i limp and a player who is a TAG raises behind me.

Marquis

01-11-2005, 07:52 PM

I'd fold preflop.

SlantNGo

01-11-2005, 07:55 PM

Fold pre-flop?!? With KJ in MP3 after 3 limpers? Terrible, especially at a loose table.

rafct

01-11-2005, 08:09 PM

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Fold pre-flop?!? With KJ in MP3 after 3 limpers? Terrible, especially at a loose table.

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Is it terrible at a tight table too?

SlantNGo

01-11-2005, 08:29 PM

At a tight table you have to think about a lot more. Are the players behind you loose or tight? If I limp, is it likely that I'll be raised and out of position? If I raise, am I likely to go heads up with one of the blinds? After another limper, I would probably limp this at a tight table as well.

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Is it terrible at a tight table too?

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KingOtter

01-11-2005, 08:49 PM

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does SSH advocate raising PF with KJo from MP3 after three limpers? I'm pretty sure this is not a correct play?

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I'm pretty sure it's raise suited, call unsuited.

KO