2+2ers shine on day 2 in Atlantis

[JustPlayingSmart]

From the blog, here are the unofficial table leaders for Flight 2:

Table 1--Thomas Dwan-52,850
Table 2--Ron Corber-26,475
Table 3--Gavin Griffen-73,550
Table 4--Thomas Schreber-44,700
Table 5--Joe Long-31,350
Table 6--Paul Incento-34,050
Table 7--Steve Walls-26,750
Table 8--Michael Goodman-47,325 and Greg Debora-43,925
Table 9--Justin Bonomo-59,375 -- Zee Justin
Table 10--Danny Ashman-41,175 -- Bruiser
and Matthew Rosenquist-41,050
Table 11--William Thorson-57,025
Table 12--Lee Watkinson-52,800
Table 13--John Gale-30,150
Table 14--John Sitton-25,750 and Daniel Negreanu-24,725
Table 15 (offficially table 18)--Mats Rahmn-18,425

Gavin is chip leader going into day 2.
Well done guys. Keep it going.

[2005]

tyty, I was hyper-aggro early today b/c my table was very weak. I built up some chips and had about 23k w/ blinds @ 150/300(50) when this hand came up:

I open UTG for 1125 w/ AA as I had the last hand(w/ K2d). MP makes it 3500. Folded to BB who thinks for a while and makes it 10k. I was planning on just calling the 3500 and trying to get the rest of his money in after the flop, but this 10k bet changed things a little /images/graemlins/wink.gif. I move in for roughly 23k total. MP calls, and BB thinks for a while and calls another 13k. MP had KK and BB has QQ, my hand holds up. This propelled me pretty high then I busted a guy w/ my AJ v/ JT on a J high flop and hovered from there on in.

Hopefully tomorrow goes as well as today.

Gavin Griffin

[The4Aces]

Zee justin could becomet he youngest WPT winner ever, correct?

[PokerGoblin]

wow to get it all in w/ AA vs KK and QQ is about as good as it gets. Nice hand and good luck.

PG

[CCx]

good stuff so far everyone, make us proud /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Sponger15SB]

chip leader of a $4,000,000 tourney and he has time to post on 2+2.

keep kicking ass, and hoping you get AA vs KK vs QQ again

[2005]

thanks for the posts and support, but I haven't done anything yet! There's a very long way to go before anything worthwile is reported. I'll post again after tomorrow.

GG

[slickpoppa]

You're in the bahamas and are posting on 2+2?! You should be womanizing. Good luck anyways

[2005]

well. considering I'm here w/ my girlfriend, that would be kinda tough /images/graemlins/grin.gif Anyways, I'm wiped out from today's play I'm gonna get some sleep since I didn't get a whole lot last night. Update coming tomorrow.

GG

[Mason Malmuth]

Hi Everyone:

Let's wish all our guys the best of luck.

Best wishes,
Mason

[slickpoppa]

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I'm gonna get some sleep since I didn't get a whole lot last night

[/ QUOTE ] I get it /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[whiskeytown]

in the other thread, they were talking about your girlfriend being Jennicide

Gavin, you're making it rough on me....I'm running out of reasons not to hate your guts - /images/graemlins/grin.gif - you better snap off Phil H. again just to balance it out -

WT

[partygirluk]

Does anyone else think the call with QQ is shockingly bad? I also think the call with KK is marginal.

[GimmeDaWatch]

Here here. What everyone else said, make Daddy proud etc. I was wondering about Danny and Justin being Bruiser and Zee, and didnt realize Gavin was a poster on here, so good luck all and here's to hoping one of you guys gets a TV spot so Vince VP can say something pithy about the wide-eyed 20 something "novice" again. As for BB with the Queens, Im sure he was feeling pretty sick about the call but after putting 40% of his stackypoo in there maybe he was just resigned to his fate (my weakass would have folded /images/graemlins/frown.gif ). BTW, did anyone read the blog post about Josh Arieh folding his KK face up after ackbleh raised all-in UTG in a similar situation then showed his Queens? How bizarre.

[gyndok]

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tyty, I was hyper-aggro early today b/c my table was very weak. I built up some chips and had about 23k w/ blinds @ 150/300(50) when this hand came up:

I open UTG for 1125 w/ AA as I had the last hand(w/ K2d). MP makes it 3500. Folded to BB who thinks for a while and makes it 10k. I was planning on just calling the 3500 and trying to get the rest of his money in after the flop, but this 10k bet changed things a little /images/graemlins/wink.gif. I move in for roughly 23k total. MP calls, and BB thinks for a while and calls another 13k. MP had KK and BB has QQ, my hand holds up. This propelled me pretty high then I busted a guy w/ my AJ v/ JT on a J high flop and hovered from there on in.

Hopefully tomorrow goes as well as today.

Gavin Griffin

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I am just glad they moved me to your table AFTER that hand.. It made it soooo easy to play a pot with you.. Glad they redraw today.. I am at 16650 just under the average stack and happy to make it past the first day. Now it is time to double up..

Geff Klein (gyndok)

Good luck trout!!

[Stew]

[ QUOTE ]
Does anyone else think the call with QQ is shockingly bad? I also think the call with KK is marginal.

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The call with QQ is probably not so good. However, it's an automatic call with KK given what Gavin himself had described as his table image.

[partygirluk]

I disagree. There is a massive difference between open raising, and four betting preflop.

Lets say Gavin does not have AA. After it gets raised and 3 bet, he must be scared that AA is out. So I don't see him pushing all in with trash, he must figure his FE to be low. Perhaps Gavin will find time to answer (and he seems such a nice guy that I bet he does), but I think Gavin is only pushing with AA and KK there. AKs and QQ put him in a dilemma, I'd like to know what he does with them, but for sure he is folding any lesser hands. Also, you have to factor in the man in the blinds. After this action, I think it is safe to say that one of Gavin or the guy in the blinds will have KK or AA an extremely high % of the time. Seeing as the guy in MP has KK, AA is much more likely.

[Stew]

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I disagree. There is a massive difference between open raising, and four betting preflop.

Lets say Gavin does not have AA. After it gets raised and 3 bet, he must be scared that AA is out. So I don't see him pushing all in with trash, he must figure his FE to be low. Perhaps Gavin will find time to answer (and he seems such a nice guy that I bet he does), but I think Gavin is only pushing with AA and KK there. AKs and QQ put him in a dilemma, I'd like to know what he does with them, but for sure he is folding any lesser hands. Also, you have to factor in the man in the blinds. After this action, I think it is safe to say that one of Gavin or the guy in the blinds will have KK or AA an extremely high % of the time. Seeing as the guy in MP has KK, AA is much more likely.

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What are you talking about four betting? This is No Limit. And, not so fast on your analysis. Think of it mathematically, when it gets back to MP. Not only could he be against AA here, he could be against QQ and AQ, QQ and AK, JJ and AQ, JJ And AK. Heck, the SB could have a huge variety of hands that he's pushing and Gaving could be pushing a huge variety of hands to get heads up.
It's an easy and clear call, end of story.

[partygirluk]

Four betting = raise, reraise, rereraise, rerereraise. I am fully aware this is NL. In limit people are much more apt (and correct) to put in a 4th bet with less than AA/KK.

You really think Gaving would move in with AQ here? His opponents range of hands are, IMHO

AA, KK, QQ, AK. The initial reraiser could have JJ/TT/AQ, as Gavin has been playing quite LAG. In any case, why would he move in with AQ when

i) He figures to get called in at minimum one place 90%+ of the time.
ii) The hand he is called by will be at best 55% favourite vs. him, and much more than half the time will be a 70%+ favourite vs. him.
iii) He is nowhere near desperate or pot committed.
iv) Even if he could get it heads up as a guaranteed 45/55 favourite he hardly has pot odds.
v) He is one of the better players in the tournaments and wants to avoid close situation.

Clear and easy call, IMHO no.
Clear and easy fold, also no.

[TheJackal]

Once Gavin re-raises again from UTG, its pretty clear he either has AA or KK. I don't see how he can't not have one of these two hands. He raised, was re-raised, and flat called by the BB. Gavin moving all in with AQ, TT, and JJ after all that? I highly doubt it. I don't see how if you are the BB you can't see that you are beat in at least one spot after MP calls the UTG re-raise. Either Gavin has a lot of moxy, is a complete moron, or has KK or AA. I think if you give Gavin any credit, you lay it down.

[daryn]

</font><blockquote><font class="small">In risposta di:</font><hr />
From the blog, here are the unofficial table leaders for Flight 2:

Table 1--Thomas Dwan-52,850
Table 2--Ron Corber-26,475
Table 3--Gavin Griffen-73,550
Table 4--Thomas Schreber-44,700
Table 5--Joe Long-31,350
Table 6--Paul Incento-34,050
Table 7--Steve Walls-26,750
Table 8--Michael Goodman-47,325 and Greg Debora-43,925
Table 9--Justin Bonomo-59,375 -- Zee Justin
Table 10--Danny Ashman-41,175 -- Bruiser
and Matthew Rosenquist-41,050
Table 11--William Thorson-57,025
Table 12--Lee Watkinson-52,800
Table 13--John Gale-30,150
Table 14--John Sitton-25,750 and Daniel Negreanu-24,725
Table 15 (offficially table 18)--Mats Rahmn-18,425

Gavin is chip leader going into day 2.
Well done guys. Keep it going.

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hey.. why is nobody talking about this? :

Firicano Daryn 8,975



oh.. yeah.



anyway, also this:

Leader Eugene 15,950

[2005]

QQ was getting 5-1 on his money and had both of us covered by a pretty decent amount... he would have almost 13k if he called and lost. This made it a pretty easy overcall in my opinion.

GG

[2005]

Result
http://twodimes.net/h/?z=700680
pokenum -h as ah - kh kc - qh qd
Holdem Hi: 1370754 enumerated boards
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
As Ah 910818 66.45 454489 33.16 5447 0.40 0.666
Kc Kh 241217 17.60 1124090 82.01 5447 0.40 0.177
Qd Qh 213272 15.56 1152035 84.04 5447 0.40 0.157

[West]

Just pointing out, if he's only beat in one spot, QQ (Gavin said he had reraised to 10k, not flat called) is just about getting odds to call, (~57k to 13k) - although Gavin didn't say if the other two were just about all in or no, only that he was all in.

It's funny the similarity of this hand to the Arieh hand described in another thread - where EP raised 6x, Arieh reraised, a LP player went all in, and in this case, EP folded (rather than moving in as Gavin did), and Arieh apparently went into the tank before eventually folding and showing his Kings, only to be shown that the LP player had QQ, just as the BB did in this case.

[2005]

Thanks Mason and everyone, I'll post at the end of my day.

GG

[fsuplayer]

best of luck to you guys.

[West]

GL all

[daryn]

just busted out.

[slickpoppa]

too bad. at least now you can give us updates on zj and bruiser

[drewjustdrew]

[ QUOTE ]
Zee justin could becomet he youngest WPT winner ever, correct?

[/ QUOTE ]
I would think Gavin could as well. He is the youngest WSOP champ, not WPT. I don't think anyone younger has won one of these events.

Good luck all.

[Slacker13]

Nice hand. Can't ask for a better pre-flop scenerio in a big tourney. Best of luck to you and the other 2+2ers!

[Daliman]

[ QUOTE ]
QQ was getting 5-1 on his money and had both of us covered by a pretty decent amount... he would have almost 13k if he called and lost. This made it a pretty easy overcall in my opinion.

GG

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Funny that you say this, yet even at 5-1, he was not getting a proper price on his money given your 5 dimes run of the hands.

Also, he was only getting about 4.3 to 1, near as I can tell. Vs one player, this would be an ok call by pot odds standards alone, but good players aren't there to just get their $$$ in equal value, and 13k ain't hay, ESPECIALLY when it's half yer stack. Obviously, this guy got mesmorized by the size of the pot.

[Daliman]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Zee justin could becomet he youngest WPT winner ever, correct?

[/ QUOTE ]
I would think Gavin could as well. He is the youngest WSOP champ, not WPT. I don't think anyone younger has won one of these events.

Good luck all.

[/ QUOTE ]

Well, I'm pretty sure ZJ is only 19, which would make him winning this a WPT record HIGHLY unlikely to be broken, as I'm sure he is only allowed to play in this event because it is not in the US, therefore any other sub-21 players would have to do it in a non-US event too.

[Analyst]

I think I've played against you on Stars (Nemo icon, no?) as PitRat.

Good luck in the tournament!

[ClassicBob]

Last chip count I saw had 2+2's Tyler Durden (Yousif, correct) sitting at 24k, for what it's worth.

[shadow29]

Not to mention:

Raymer Greg 36,950

[Sponger15SB]

who?

[TylerD]

oh well. more time in the sun, or will it be more time in the side games. what's the action like there?

[daryn]

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oh well. more time in the sun, or will it be more time in the side games. what's the action like there?

[/ QUOTE ]

the poker action sucks. i'm not even interested in it slightly. beach baby!

[Sponger15SB]

The Aruba blog owned the [censored] out of this one.

No update in like what two hours?

zzzzzzzzz

[2005]

UGGGG chip leader day 1, bubble boy day 2. I played so bad today and the one of the few hands I played well I lost to a 3 outer. I think I should fly home to the snow to punish myself.

GG

[The4Aces]

Being bubble boy is horrible. Probably much worse in this event. Sorry man

[2005]

knowing that it was eminently avoidable makes it much worse.

GG

[whiskeytown]

ah hell - sorry bro.....I'd rather bust out in the first 7 min. then on the bubble - damn

pax
RB

[2005]

thanks for the sympathy, but when you play as terrible as I did today you deserve some sort of horrible punishment, this was mine I guess.

GG

[whiskeytown]

well, we can also look at it the other way

a modest amount of fame, a WSOP bracelet, didn't pay full price for the tourney - what appears to be a hot girlfriend who doesn't nag you about playing /images/graemlins/grin.gif - all things I don't have - LOL -

If it were the last tourney ever, then yah, - but fortunately for all of us, many more times to come and fix the issue and come back harder next time

next time....
RB

[sirio11]

Hey Gavin, could you give us examples of bad play? Could it be that you were using the same agressive strategy than in the first day, but this time the cards didn't work?

David C

[gyndok]

[ QUOTE ]
I think I've played against you on Stars (Nemo icon, no?) as PitRat.

Good luck in the tournament!

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thats me.. I just busted at 64th with 88 vs AQ

no problem though as I sucked out too many times to just get in the money... I spent 3 hrs today in the 1 seat with Raymer in the 2 seat and Williams in in the 4 seat.. /images/graemlins/smile.gif Not fun at all..

Geff

[slickpoppa]

hows fossilman doing?

[gyndok]

[ QUOTE ]
hows fossilman doing?

[/ QUOTE ]

Well our table broke before we were HFH. He was at the next table and was all-in with AK vs Negreanu's AQ and doubled up. Negreanu went out before me BTW /images/graemlins/smile.gif As I was walking to get my $$ I could see that Rayner had built it back up but I didnt estimate his count...

Geff

[The Yugoslavian]

Unofficially, Raymer is at 53,600 chips:
Tourny Blog (http://caribbeanpokeradventure.blogspot.com/2005/01/unofficial-day-three-leader-board.html)

ZJ is listed twice at ~106k. Perhaps this means he really has 212k??

Well, here's for hopin, /images/graemlins/wink.gif.

[phifediggy]

nah he's just multi-tabling as usual

[Enecoman]

Sorry to hear you busted out Gavin.

- Enecoman

[Lazymeatball]

I'm slightly confused from reading the P* Blog.

[ QUOTE ]
I made it to the edge of the table and found that a guy had called for the rest of his stack with AJ. He had to be happy to see his opponent's K9, until the board turned simply dreadful. The opponent, turned hero when he paired his king. The news spread like a gasoline fire and cheers rose up from the crowd.

There was only one unhappy person in the entire room. I wish I gotten his name. I wish I'd gotten his picture in focus. I wish there wasn't such a thing as a bubble. It's like watching a sick puppy get sicker. It's just sad.

http://pcaimages.pokerstars.com/bubbleboy.jpg

Bubble boy, we hardly knew thee

At least he can say he got his chips in with the best hand.

Now, there are 62 players left. The concept of bubbling is gone. Every remaining player goes home with more than the buy-in.

Except bubble boy.

If you're out there, bubble boy, I'm sorry. While I had nothing to do with the hand, I hate that it had to be documented for everyone to see.

Well, sort of.

posted by Brad "Otis" Willis at 9:21 PM


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I'm pretty sure that's Not GG after comparing the picture from the previous picture of him on the blog, and the fact that GG was arleady recognized by name and picture in the blog. Maybe Gavin finished 82 or 83, or maybe that's just the totally wrong picture. I hope one of you Bahamas people can answer that when you get a second in between cards, booze and beach.

[sirio11]

Gavin was out 86

Almost the same

[SharkBait]

[ QUOTE ]
thanks for the sympathy, but when you play as terrible as I did today you deserve some sort of horrible punishment, this was mine I guess.

GG

[/ QUOTE ]

Don't beat yourself up Gavin. I'm sure you played it aggressively and took your shot. It was nice meeting you briefly. I took your "advice" and caught some cards against Negraneau. Hopefully will run into you around Chicago and if all goes well for me at more of these tournaments.

[gyndok]

http://pcaimages.pokerstars.com/day2feature.jpg

that is me in the one seat... Raymer is in the 2 seat Well you can see my hand at least /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Geff Klein