Need strategy advice for game with a kill!

[Smackdab]

I've only rarely ventured into the realm of B&M play and just received a call form someone inviting me to a home game that will feature a kill. As I have no experience in kill games I thought I might seek out a little advice. Not sure this is the proper forum but I figure B&M players have more experience in these games as I don't recall any internet sites that regularly offer these.

Please offer any thoughts or advice. This promises to be a very juicy game. Why juicy? Read below for quotes from phone conversation I had with the host.

"I'm trying to get 3-4 solid players in the game.....I can make better reads."

"I was playing 5/10 at a casino and there were 8 people to see the flop regardless of pre-flop action........so I quit raising pre-flop."

"XXXXX is one of the fish that will be there." (XXXXX is one of the best players in my regular Sunday night $100 buy-in NL tourney)

[ononimo]

UB used to have regular low-limit kill games ... don't know if they still do, though.

[Demana]

People are timid when the kill is on and you can run over them. Just treat it as a normal limit game with a bit higher blind.

[Jay36489]

You must also keep in mind that if people are more timid in a kill pot, if they are raising you must give them credit for a better hand then normal. Also there is usually less people to a flop in kill pots so specualative hands dont have as much positive EV.

[bernie]

Sounds like a great game.

Generally, play much tighter prelfop in a kill game if you think it will be multiway. If you have an opportunity to isolate, go ahead and try it.

Reason is that when you lose in a kill pot, those bets are harder to recoup because the limit goes back to normal so it's like losing double/quad bets. The kill button doesn't come aroung often enough to really play 'normal' when it's in effect.

Adjust accordingly.

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[PokerSlut]

Is it an optional kill, or a "forced" kill?

If it's an optional kill, then the game basically plays like 2x whatever the current stakes are, with the exception that the person who posts the kill is the last to act preflop. I have also seen double kills where the bets jump to 4x normal on all streets. Another way to think of it is like a live straddle from any position instead of just UTG.

If it's a forced kill (which I hate), in the B&M games I've played with it, it means that after you win 2 consecutive pots, you are forced to post a kill for the next hand, where the bets are 2x as expensive.

[Smackdab]

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Is it an optional kill, or a "forced" kill?


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Actually never crossed my mind to ask. My asumption is an optional kill. The host use to run tournaments where the add on was called a rebuy. My hope is a live straddle. Figure it'll be the loose/gamblers at the table posting it and my thought is to isolate them with any decent holding while being wary of a rock raising behind me.

[Luv2DriveTT]

I have never heard of an optional Kill. All kill games are forced, this way it is fair to all the players at the table.

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[Luv2DriveTT]

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People are timid when the kill is on and you can run over them. Just treat it as a normal limit game with a bit higher blind.

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I disagree. I think people are more aggressive post-flop with a kill, pre-flop they are more timid because it is very common that the killer raises the pot pre-flop. For example a 4/8 full kill game starts with blinds of 2/4 and the live kill blind of 8. Everyone (including the small & sbig blinds) must call or raise the 8 blind, with the live killer last to act. Since the killer has this advantage to take the aggressor role, it is common that he or she raises pre-flop. Another common occurance is family pots during a kill hand. Gamblers love to play when its a killed pot.

Post flop, most players I know are super aggressive with a kill pot, everyone wants a big piece of the action!

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