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rocflight
01-07-2005, 05:46 AM
The following two hands occurred fairly late in the tourney. I had recently been moved to the table, so no reads. How would you play these two hands? Note, these two hands happened almost back to back (one hand in between) against the same opponent.

Hand 1
bucket980 is at seat 0 with 6450.
iqekjaduiaj is at seat 2 with 12080.
rocflight is at seat 3 with 53455.
stinkysback is at seat 4 with 9510.
QuietLion is at seat 5 with 25750.
glacier5 is at seat 6 with 14600.
RASBRADY is at seat 7 with 13240.
FeralCat is at seat 8 with 9995.
The button is at seat 8.

FeralCat posts ante (125).
RASBRADY posts ante (125).
glacier5 posts ante (125).
QuietLion posts ante (125).
stinkysback posts ante (125).
rocflight posts ante (125).
iqekjaduiaj posts ante (125).
bucket980 posts ante (125).
iqekjaduiaj posts the small blind of 600.
rocflight posts the big blind of 1200.

bucket980: -- --
iqekjaduiaj: -- --
rocflight: 5 /images/graemlins/spade.gif Q /images/graemlins/diamond.gif
stinkysback: -- --
QuietLion: -- --
glacier5: -- --
RASBRADY: -- --
FeralCat: -- --

Pre-flop:

stinkysback folds. QuietLion calls. glacier5 folds.
RASBRADY folds. FeralCat folds. bucket980 folds. iqekjaduiaj folds. rocflight checks.

Flop (board: 4 /images/graemlins/club.gif 3 /images/graemlins/club.gif Q /images/graemlins/spade.gif):

rocflight bets 2400. QuietLion calls.

Turn (board: 4 /images/graemlins/club.gif 3 /images/graemlins/club.gif Q /images/graemlins/spade.gif K /images/graemlins/spade.gif):

rocflight bets 3500. QuietLion raises to 19300 ...

Hand 2
bucket980 is at seat 0 with 6200.
iqekjaduiaj is at seat 2 with 11230.
rocflight is at seat 3 with 51705.
stinkysback is at seat 4 with 4660.
QuietLion is at seat 5 with 34200.
glacier5 is at seat 6 with 14350.
RASBRADY is at seat 7 with 12990.
FeralCat is at seat 8 with 9745.
The button is at seat 2.

RASBRADY posts ante (125).
glacier5 posts ante (125).
QuietLion posts ante (125).
stinkysback posts ante (125).
rocflight posts ante (125).
iqekjaduiaj posts ante (125).
bucket980 posts ante (125).
FeralCat posts ante (125).
stinkysback posts the small blind of 600.
QuietLion posts the big blind of 1200.

bucket980: -- --
iqekjaduiaj: -- --
rocflight: T /images/graemlins/diamond.gif A /images/graemlins/heart.gif
stinkysback: -- --
QuietLion: -- --
glacier5: -- --
RASBRADY: -- --
FeralCat: -- --

Pre-flop:

glacier5 folds. RASBRADY folds. FeralCat folds. bucket980 folds. iqekjaduiaj folds. rocflight
raises to 4000. stinkysback folds. QuietLion calls.


Flop (board: 4 /images/graemlins/spade.gif 9 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif Q /images/graemlins/club.gif):

QuietLion checks. rocflight checks.

Turn (board: 4 /images/graemlins/spade.gif 9 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif Q /images/graemlins/club.gif T /images/graemlins/heart.gif):

QuietLion bets 1200. rocflight raises to 4000.
QuietLion goes all-in for 30075

I'm less concerned about what I should have done at the end but rather how I could have played both hands better.

Al Mirpuri
01-07-2005, 06:21 AM
He could have just got lucky twice or bluffed you the second time when he realizes you are willing to let a hand go. Why on earth are you playing Q5?

trumpman84
01-07-2005, 06:26 AM
he was in the big blind it seems.

rocflight
01-07-2005, 12:28 PM
Bonus points if you can guess what he had /images/graemlins/smile.gif

JaBlue
01-07-2005, 12:39 PM
Second hand I think you played fine except on the turn play. I'd make a bet of 4,000 and play it from there.

The first hand I would be done with against most opposition after they called on the flop.

kuro
01-07-2005, 04:33 PM
Hand 1: After getting called on the flop, you're looking to get to the river for cheap. So I'd probably check the turn and go from there unless you've got a really strong read. Definitely fold to the big raise without a heck of a read.

Hand 2: With AT you're looking to steal the blinds, so consider betting out on the flop to try to take it down there representing AQ or an overpair. That said you checked and got lucky to catch on the turn. You need to reraise more. You didn't reraise enough to shut out the straight draw if he has say AJ or TJ. When you get reraised all in, you should fold. The board is really coordinated, you could be easily looking at two pair or a made straight.

Fudomyo
01-07-2005, 06:21 PM
K3/4 in the first hand.

J9 in the second.

rocflight
01-08-2005, 01:15 AM
First one is a little right, second one is not close.

Pepsquad
01-08-2005, 02:17 AM
You should not be putting any more than the blind money in the pot on either of these hands. Period.