posting my first vegas blind on the 20th

[knifeandfork]

where should i stay (economy is the first consideration here). where should i play tournaments in the 40-100ish range? are there any small PLO games going? where should i play HE 5-10 ish, O8? stud8? nlhe 2/5 and smaller? Palms or TI for goins out? what are the things i should i die if i dont see/do? best place for a really good massage (read massage not @#&*@)? there was also aposter with a great website i went to a while back dedicated soley to LV poker a link to his post or site would be great! TIA to everyone for responding i used the search function, and found some useful info but not a lot of specifics and descriptions. indebted for advice my first vacation in a while i wanna make it a good one:) also anyone else out there around this time and want to show the noob around/hangout whatever pms and responses welcome.
thanks,
jason

[CMP]

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1. where should i stay (economy is the first consideration here).
2. where should i play tournaments in the 40-100ish range?
3. are there any small PLO games going?
4. where should i play HE 5-10 ish, O8? stud8? nlhe 2/5 and smaller?
5. Palms or TI for goins out?
6. what are the things i should i die if i dont see/do?
7. best place for a really good massage (read massage not @#&*@)?
8. there was also aposter with a great website i went to a while back dedicated soley to LV poker a link to his post or site would be great!

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1. http://www.cheapovegas.com for reviews on all the hotels; try the typical online discounters; popular budget locations include: Orleans (off strip), Imperial Palace or Barbary Coast(center strip), downtown

2. Orleans, though more places are offering NLHE tournies in this range now

3. not that I know of

4. HE 5-10 ish - $4-8 everywhere, $6-12 Mirage; O8 - Mirage $5-10, Bellagio $6-12, low-buyin tournies at Orleans; stud8 - nowhere? Orleans tourney is gone now; nlhe 2/5 and smaller? - $1-2 everywhere, $2-5 Mirage, Bellagio, probably some others too(?)

5. I thought it was Palms or Hard Rock? No comment.

6. If you've got a car - Hoover Dam, Red Rock Canyon; walking/cabbing, I like Bellagio lobby, gallery, fountains, Mirage volcano, gondolas at Venetian, top of the Strat (the rides!), midway at Circus Circus; Fremont Street Experience

7. Any of the spas at the higher end hotels (Bellagio, Paris, Mandalay)

8. http://www.allvegaspoker.com

Enjoy! Write a trip report when you return!

CMP

[The4Aces]

When i stayed in vegas i stayed at the frontier, i am not sure if they are still open. They had large rooms and were like $40 a night.

[Al_Capone_Junior]

the aladdin's mon-thurs 1pm tournament is probably the fishiest but won't be as big as the hotels like orleans (GAG, nasty-ville local players and not trustworthy with the tourney cash or user-friendly to the players).

good luck ever finding O-8 here, let alone pot limit. You'll find limit O-8 5-10 full kill at mirage, but it's full of local sharks. other than that, everything but hold'em is basically dead in vegas (except at upper-mid to high limits). no limit hold'em is thriving tho, particularly at the 1-2 blinds $100 buy-in level.

since i live here i am not too up to date on prices for hotels, but felicialee is a fantastic poster to ask about it. ask for a poker rate tho if they have a cardroom. excal might be a good one to try as they have a good cardroom that it would not be a burden to play at enough to get the discount. not sure if they have it or not tho. mirage does but they are not cheep by any means. aladdin still does not, they are lagging their assess on THAT.

i don't know about the massage scene, regular or otherwise.

if you want to spend that kind of cash, the restaraunt "hugo's cellar" at the four queens is fantastic, but plan on $40-$80 a head.

for cheeper but delicious food, try joey's bistro on top of carriage house on the southernish end of the strip.

the buffets in town are numerous and terrific. from the super-cheep to the $29ish range, they are all good. notables are aladdin, rio, mirage and bellagio for expensive, paris breakfast buffet (about $16) a MUST DO, and terrible's (slightly off-strip) for the cheepo in you (about $7-8).

There is much in the way of sushi here, it's all basically very good, but the best are off the strip, specifically yama sushi on flamingo and maryland parkway.

just in case you don't know, if anyone is going to be with you who is going to play slots, video poker, or anything electronic, make damn sure they have a comp card in the machine from minute ONE. it also doesn't hurt to present your comp card to the pit boss if you plan to play any table games, you may or may not get rated/get comps but it doesn't hurt to try.

perhaps we can get a 2+2 super-magoo game going when you are here. anyone interested please do chime in.

al

[knifeandfork]

thanks al i'll definitely be in touch:) dunno if i have the roll for a magoo game though. looks like ill be playing ring nl and tournies as limit holdem is rusty for me and not been doing well in holdem.
thanks all,
jason

[deacsoft]

If you're going to be on the strip... Harrah's as a decent low buy-in NL tourney. (side games are average)

If you're to be downtown... the Horseshoe as a couple daily low buy-in NL tourneys. (side games are nothing but fish)

[FeliciaLee]

1) Stay downtown
2) By "small" PLO games what do you mean? 5/5 blinds? 2/5? Call Horseshoe, I have seen a PLO game there on the weekends
3) By 5/10 HE I assume you mean the 4/8 - 6/12 range? Most of the strip rooms; Mirage, Bellagio, Mandalay...call around
4) O8 is played at Orleans from the 2/4 level up to 10/20, I believe. 20/40 is at Bellagio, 4/8 and sometimes 6/12 at Station properties
5) Stud 8 is a toughie. Palms and Palace are probably your only hope, if they have them going at all
6) Baby NLHE is virtually everywhere these days
7) Tourneys change all the time. For loose/passive play, stay on the strip, for loose/aggressive play, downtown is usually the place

Visit lasvegasvegas.com for more comprehensive tourney listings. It's not my site, but they keep up on the daily tourneys around town.

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[Bwm77]

I was in vegas in August. Stayed and played at Harah's. They only spread 2-4 and 4-8 w/ a Kill. The last night i was there they spread a 2-5 no-limit $300 max buy in. I was able to come home $300 up. This after a $900 bar tab on Sat night. They have a small poker room(i live in connecticut and play at Foxwoods which has a very large poker room, so they all seem small), but it didn't seem like it was full of local sharks.

Other than poker there is a local gun store that lets you rent and fire fully automatic weapons....Lots of fun!

If your into the clubs of the exotic variety i would recomend Sapphire's...Jay Leno is quoted as saying "Its like Cost-co meets Hooters"....Also lots of fun. If your going with a group i recomend reserving the "rock star lounge".

One side not on the limit games. In vegas they allow 1 bet and 4 raises. Here in CT and anywhere else i've played its capped a 4 bets. Woulda liked to know that before i just called 4 bets W/ AA from the small blind.

Anyway have fun and Good Luck!

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Orleans has daily 4/8 O8 with 1/2 kill game as well. These people chase everything, and I mean, everything. It's my favorite Omaha hi/low to play in town.

As for stud, Mirage runs a 1-5, 5/10, Excalibur has 1-5, Sams Town has 2/4 and 2/4 Stud8, Bellagio had a 30/60 and 15/30 stud game going friday the 7th.

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perhaps we can get a 2+2 super-magoo game going when you are here

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Wtf is a "super-magoo" game ? I've never heard that term before.

[Al_Capone_Junior]

These games originated from 2+2ers calling each other "Magoo," which originated back in AC in the late nineties...

"Magoo" is a somewhat generic term that originated in Atlantic City. Years ago, Jesus (Zeus) Marrero said "That man plays like that cartoon character, the nearsighted Mr. Magoo. He can't even read his own cards, and he certainly doesn't know what to do with them."

Magoo is a term for a player who is so clueless that even reading the board seems beyond their capacity. Since its beginnings, the term has evolved into a somewhat ambiguous, all-purpose word. It can be a noun, a verb, an adjective, and probably a pronoun or adverb too, if you really get creative. Still, it's primarily a noun, referring to a bad player who makes a bad play.

So at any rate, a 2+2 Super-Magoo game is a small stakes, limit hold'em game held in a casino where 2+2ers get together and drink lots of liquor and beer (it's a must-drink game /images/graemlins/grin.gif) and play stupid cards like capping it with 3d2d and check-raise with gutshots to the butt-end and that kind of thing. We have had two of them since I got here, both at excalibur. One was 2-6 spread limit and the other was 1-3 spread limit. It's better to play the 1-3 because then we can all play even stupid-er and have even more fun. Excal will let us change the rules up for a private game too, thus allowing straddles in the 1-3 game (normally not allowed in the beginner game). They are great fun, full of terrible bad beats, weeping, gnashing of teeth, etc etc.

I got a hankerin' to have another one of these games soon, perhaps a fresh thread is in order! Since my schedule is screwy right now, I will wait till next week to try and get the ball rolling, but it shall happen and that right soon!

Another thing that should happen fairly soon is a mixed games private tournament LIVE in LV. I can get the arrangements made when the time comes!

All 2+2ers should try and get in one of these games in their lifetime. They should also promise themselves to play BAD and NOT be a friggin' party-pooping rock, and to just whip it out and have a blast!

al

[Luv2DriveTT]

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Another thing that should happen fairly soon is a mixed games private tournament LIVE in LV. I can get the arrangements made when the time comes!

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That sounds might interesting, what games would you prefer? Are you thinking a HORSE game, or something simpler such as Omaha/Hold'em? Next time I'm in Vegas (early next month) I'll give you a shout Al, even if we don't get an official Magoo game going, we can always act like dumbasses ad do it ourselves.... lets strike fear into the hearts of the tourists!

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[Al_Capone_Junior]

hell, every game in the universe! triple draw 2-7 lowball, stud-8, omaha high only, everything and anything that I can dream up that can be played in a casino, even if I haven't played it before! The object would be to have a tournament where everyone is pretty unfamiliar with MOST of the games, thus making it more of a "poker" game and less of a "hold'em" game.

al

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Oh you know that I'm in for that son!

[FeliciaLee]

Glenn and I will be there if I'm able.

I'm supposed to go to the LAPC at Commerce on Jan 26-Feb 7 (longer if I win a sat to the main event).

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[okayplayer]

Me and another 2+2er will be in Vegas for the week of the 15th - 23rd. This Super-Magoo game sounds pretty fun, keep me posted.

I will probably post about our plans as well to see if other 2+2ers want to meet up.

[Al_Capone_Junior]

Must be the "loose aggressive player's club" annual get-together.

Probably holding it in southern california this year.

Again.


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al