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winky51
01-05-2005, 12:07 PM
SB is a SUPER calling station that calls down with Ace high. He never bluffs, always bets the best hand. What do you do here?


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Preflop: Hero is BB with K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, SB calls.

Flop: (8 SB) J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP2 folds, SB calls.

Turn: (5.50 BB) 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero folds, UTG+1 calls.

River: (7.50 BB) 2/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, UTG+1 calls.

Final Pot: 9.50 BB

RESULTS in white <font color="white"> he shows Ks 3s for the flush </font>

JeffO
01-05-2005, 12:15 PM
No way I'm laying this one down, I don't care how much of a calling station he is. I think 95% of the people in his shoes that make their flush on the turn are going to go for a check raise here and there is no way I'm confident enough about the read you had to lay this down.

mistrpug
01-05-2005, 12:19 PM
I think this was a bad laydown dispite the results.

winky51
01-05-2005, 12:54 PM
So you would just call down?

Rico Suave
01-05-2005, 01:02 PM
Winky:

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SB is a SUPER calling station that calls down with Ace high. He never bluffs, always bets the best hand.

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I have played agaisnts a few players where I could comfortably fold KK to their turn bet on a board like that, but they are few and far between. Your opponent seems to fit that description. So, as long as you are very confident on your read of him, I think the fold is fine.

--Rico

mistrpug
01-05-2005, 03:11 PM
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So you would just call down?

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Sorry, I totally missed your read. Your fold is fine.

Against an unknown, I raise the turn.

housenuts
01-05-2005, 04:21 PM
you have to be very confident with your read. no way i'm laying this down without many many situations where i witnessed SB do this.