1-Table Forum Health Checkup

[Unarmed]

Is it just me or is the quality of posting in this forum starting to slip? I mention this only because I've seen other forums slowly disintegrate to the point where its nearly impossible to pick the worthwhile posts out of the garbage, and certainly not worth the effort to do so. It happens slowly at first, then all the experienced players can't be bothered posting, and the place becomes overrun by crappy players giving brutal advice.

I'd hate to see our forum go the same way, so to all who post here, please:

- Before posting, please please please use the search function. Actually, before you even go about reading current posts, go through the archives (do a search on best threads, etc) and study all that has been posted before you. There is an ton of amazing subject matter already out there. After doing so you will find that your future posts will already appear quite insightful as you will have absorbed a ton of knowledge.
- If you're new here, and don't consider yourself a good player yet (which is fine, we all start somewhere, I still consider myself barely above average) don't respond to hand postings. ABSORB! Feel free to post your own hands, and then let the experienced players comment. No one wants to be given incorrect advice.
- And to all quality posters, if someone makes a dumb post, please flame the sh*t out of them. (if you need advice on how to do this, ask eastbay) Honestly, the reason the high stakes NL forum is so good these days is because most posters are afraid to write anything there. I think a healthy bit of fear is beneficial to any forum.

Anyway... Hope that wasn't harsh. Maybe I'm way off base here but I sense the beginning of a downward trend here and I'd hate to see this great forum go down the toilet.

[mart_ph]

I agree with everything in the above, apart from i don't see the problem in new players postings what their views are. That's the point of a forum. Fine if what we say is crap then flame away...but constructively. That's how we all learn. otherwise, how do us newbies know when we are no longer a newby but a "good player" as you put it???

There are many ways and reasons for playing most hands a certain way. And any forum will only survive if contradictory views are given.

[KingOtter]

I post my opinion and my experience, take or leave it. I'd never go so far as to say whether my advice is good or bad.

When I do ask a question I check a few things on the responses.

1. Post count of poster. Doesn't ALWAYS mean something, but it is indicative of how into the game they are.
2. Join date. How long have they been doing this?
3. How many people agree/disagree? And why?

I like the debates... which I think teach more than just experienced posters putting up facts.

KO

[Irieguy]

If you define a high-quality poker forum as one in which you are likely to find information that can help your game, then I think this forum is stronger than ever.

Within the past week or two, there have been several posts that I have read which contain information so valuable that I desperately hoped people would stop replying so that the thread would be buried.

The pearls are not always readily apparent, and there will always be tons of garbage on any internet forum... but the information is there if you look carefully enough to find it.

As far as "flaming" thoughtless posters goes... I disagree. A much more effective technique of filtering out the fodder is to not reply at all. That way the thread disappears quickly.

But overall, this forum is invaluable to anybody who reads it appropriately. If you are a winning poker player, everything you need to know to kill SNGs is contained in threads from the past few weeks, in some form or another.

Irieguy

[citanul]

I have to agree with Irie here.

There's tons of good stuff showing up all the time in this forum. There's also tons of crap. I'm pained to say that I've likely missed out on many of Irie's pearls he was dreading us all catching, but that was because I was on break.

Meanwhile, I disagree with almost everything the original poster and at least one of the other posters had to say.

Advice such as "don't respond to hands until you've been around a bit" is about as detrimental both to the forum and to the original person heeding the advice as can be imagined.

There are many questions that I believe wouldn't be posted again if the search function was used. That I am fine with as advice, as many posts are so general and so clearly worded (ie "i know this has been asked before") that clearly one could have found them in the archives. That said, the archive and search fuction on this site are a complete mess, and so it's understandable that sometimes people just want an answer, not a 45 minute horrorshow of using the search tool.

Read the archves before posting or asking any questions is pretty zany advice as well. Why not do both?

Flaming is flaming. It will happen on all message boards.

But in general, I think that posts like the OP's where it's "I want this message board to look a certain way, and you're not conforming to that ideal" are about as worthless as worthless posts get.

citanul

[AleoMagus]

You are never going to beat me to poo-bah making posts like that.

Regards
Brad S

[AleoMagus]

... at least not as long as I keep making posts like this

Regards
Brad S

[AleoMagus]

What is this thread about anyways?

... Oh, Useless posts. I see

Regards
Brad S

[Irieguy]

Just think, Aleo... when you finally make Poo-Bah some young newbie will see that next to your name and decide to check out your Bio. They will figure you know something, so they'll click on "show all users posts."

Then they'll read your last 400 posts and figure out that "Poo-Bah" just means "weirdo with way too much time on their hands."

Irieguy

PS- one more post and I become a veteran... sweet.

[Awesemo]

I find that the quality could be much higher if the forum was split into two forums, micro & small stakes, and mid & high stakes. It would make the information a person needs much easier to find and keep it better organized.

[AleoMagus]

Actually... 801 more posts and you become veteran. Dare to dream.

Aren't you the guy who once made fun of how all my posts should have (long) next to them. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

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Then they'll read your last 400 posts and figure out that "Poo-Bah" just means "weirdo with way too much time on their hands."


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Pretty much

Regards
Brad S

[Mr_J]

Yeh, I post what I'd do anyway since if it's obviously wrong or there is a better option, someone will point that out. If it's a "advice" post then I'll throw in I'm a beginner. If it's a "what would you do" then doesn't really matter.

[Irieguy]

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Actually... 801 more posts and you become veteran. Dare to dream.


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Oh yeah, I meant "addict," and you just gave me an excuse to post my 400th.

Wooohoooo.

Irieguy

[AleoMagus]

Congratulations!

Regards
Brad S

[rybones]

do you think you and Irieguy should start dating?

[AleoMagus]

Even I have lost all respect for my posts after today...

I'll stop

Regards
Brad S

[rybones]

Actually, I have really enjoyed you posts the last few days. To be honest, I have loved them since I started posting 4 or 5 months ago. Anyway I need the laughs tonight so thanks.

ryan

[texasrattlers]

OK I'll try /images/graemlins/grin.gif

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Within the past week or two, there have been several posts that I have read which contain information so valuable that I desperately hoped people would stop replying so that the thread would be buried.

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Irieguy, would you mind posting links to the threads you found particularly useful. Please. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

P.S. You can do it in a separate thread if you'd like. Then you'd be a veteran!

[SuitedSixes]

I wonder how many PMs he has received asking for the same thing?

P.S. To re-iterate for all of you hell-bent on increasing your post total, go over to Other Other Topics. It is a lot of fun.

[Pepsquad]

I just copied every post from the last three weeks from this forum and will start going back through them (when Irie has SNG advice, I listen). Which is why I disagree with you Unarmed. Some of the best threads I have ever read were in-depth discussions sparked by "some guy that has the balls to disagree with the standard line". What we "KNOW" to be true about SNG play should be ever-evolving in this forum and that doesn't happen by having the same guy spew verbatim his AK in the CO play. Appreciate the newbie that challeges what you know to be true - it might be you that ends up learning a thing or two.

[KingOtter]

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Actually... 801 more posts and you become veteran. Dare to dream.


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Oh yeah, I meant "addict," and you just gave me an excuse to post my 400th.

Wooohoooo.

Irieguy

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Gee... I was just happy to become a 'member'

KO

[lorinda]

I have two carpal tunnels. (Lori being the other one).

Am I sick?

Lori

[KingOtter]

You've been here for two years... nahh, you're not sick.

[sofere]

I have two carpal tunnels, but they're not from posting on this site. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[El Maximo]

Internet porn will do that to you.