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JordanIB
01-04-2005, 10:12 AM
I don't post a ton of hands, because I find it hard to go through so many of them and pick out specific ones for questions. But here's a fairly simple one from last night.

I gotta raise the turn, right?

The myriad of callers scared me a bit, until the river came, and I saw the calling as a sign of weakness rather than strength.

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Preflop: Hero is CO with A/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls, SB folds, BB folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (11.50 SB) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP3 calls, Hero calls, Button calls.

Turn: (8.25 BB) 9/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP3 calls, Hero calls, Button calls.

River: (13.25 BB) 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP3 folds.

Final Pot: 20.25 BB

jrz1972
01-04-2005, 10:13 AM
Raise the flop and see what happens from there.

JordanIB
01-04-2005, 10:14 AM
Oh wow. I didn't even notice that I hadn't raised the flop. Looking back over the hand I took it for granted that I had.

Damn, now I just look stupid. /images/graemlins/blush.gif

jskills
01-04-2005, 10:24 AM
Yep, I would have bet the turn.

PokerBob
01-04-2005, 10:47 AM
[ QUOTE ]

I gotta raise the turn, right?


[/ QUOTE ]

Yup. The flop too.

JordanIB
01-04-2005, 10:52 AM
I think I was guilty here of a horribly incorrect application of the "wait until the turn to protect" theory. Should I not feel the need to "protect" an over pair against a very coordinated board? And if everyone's going to be a calling station to UTG, then I suppose they'll have the odds to call 1 more on the turn anyways?

Is this a correct analysis?

jrz1972
01-04-2005, 10:56 AM
It's not possible to protect your hand on this particular deal. Just bet for value.

JudgeRW
01-04-2005, 10:56 AM
Raise the flop, Raise the turn