2/4 rake "kills you"?

[PITTM]

i remember when i first started playing live 2/4 i read an article in i believe it was card player about how prop players were finding it "impossible" to beat their local 2/4 game due to the high rake. was this specifically because they were using an incorrect strategy or is this game really a -ev proposition? i know ive been winning at a pretty consistant rate, but i see pleanty of good players get wrecked playing these low limit games incorrectly. could that have been the fault of these prop players as well?

rj

[ThaSaltCracka]

roughly $100 gets taken off the table every hour. With average stacks being around $100 each, how can playing these tables be a +EV for you?

[icetonez]

Does it become +EV at 3/6 or must you go higher?

[chrisdhal]

Part of it depends on the room. For example, Canterbury Park in Minnesota rakes 10% up to $4 on 2/4, 3/6 and 4/8. So obviously it's better to play 4/8 if possible because $4 is a much smaller proportion of the pot.

[ThaSaltCracka]

well, its clearly better than 2/4, but you are still loosing a lot to the rake. 4/8 is def the best "lower limit" in regards rake

[edtost]

most props aren't very good. otherwise, they wouldn't need to be props and play in shitty sh games.

[PITTM]

terrible, terrible players. and a weak bankroll.

rj

[banditbdl]

Another example of rake issues comes from Canterbury as well. While the 4/8 rake is indeed proportionally better than the 2/4 or 3/6 rake it's when you move to 6/12 that you get the big bump. At 6/12 and higher they switch to a 5% up to 4 dollars rake (I think its up to 3 dollars at 15/30 and 30/60). This means you are in effect "saving" rake on both big and small pots.