Shafted, AA CRACKED again and again/HH

These are two hand histories from today in which I got shafted.. In the span of 7 minutes 33 seconds I get AA. I lose $360 on the fockers.....any comments on whether or not I should have folded would be appreciated.


who the fuck calls for $20 early with 54off? I probably should have folded on the river.... but there was already 500 in the pot.

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Game #126342946 - $20/$40 Hold'em - 2001/11/09-09:41:57 (CST)

Table "Jamaica" (real money) -- Seat 4 is the button

Seat 1: Kinder1 ($1,458 in chips)

Seat 2: imagine ($620 in chips)

Seat 3: FrankieBllz ($900 in chips)

Seat 4: Colonel ($1,992 in chips)

Seat 5: Goonk ($687 in chips)

Seat 6: DanielShawn ($756 in chips)

Seat 7: shuttle ($934 in chips)

Seat 8: shrubber ($1,199 in chips)

Seat 9: PokieOkie ($1,520 in chips)

Seat 10: LobsterBoy ($1,792 in chips)

Goonk : Post Small Blind ($10)

DanielShawn: Post Big Blind ($20)

shrubber: Sit out

Dealing...

Dealt to FrankieBllz [ Ah ]

Dealt to FrankieBllz [ Ad ]

shuttle : Fold

PokieOkie: Call ($20)

LobsterBoy: Call ($20)

Kinder1 : Fold

imagine : Call ($20)

FrankieBllz: Raise ($40)

Colonel : Fold

Goonk : Fold

DanielShawn: Fold

PokieOkie: Call ($20)

LobsterBoy: Call ($20)

imagine : Call ($20)

*** FLOP *** : [ 3s 7d Kd ]

PokieOkie: Check

LobsterBoy: Bet ($20)

imagine : Fold

FrankieBllz: Raise ($40)

PokieOkie: Call ($40)

LobsterBoy: Call ($20)

*** TURN *** : [ 3s 7d Kd ] [ 6h ]

PokieOkie: Check

LobsterBoy: Check

FrankieBllz: Bet ($40)

PokieOkie: Call ($40)

LobsterBoy: Call ($40)

*** RIVER *** : [ 3s 7d Kd 6h ] [ 8h ]

PokieOkie: Check

LobsterBoy: Check

FrankieBllz: Bet ($40)

PokieOkie: Raise ($80)

LobsterBoy: Fold

FrankieBllz: Call ($40)

*** SUMMARY ***

Pot: $587 | Rake: $3

Board: [ 3s 7d Kd 6h 8h ]

Kinder1 didn't bet (folded)

imagine lost $40 (folded)

FrankieBllz lost $200 [ Ah Ad ] (a pair of aces)

Colonel didn't bet (folded)

Goonk lost $10 (folded)

DanielShawn lost $20 (folded)

shuttle didn't bet (folded)

shrubber didn't bet

PokieOkie bet $200, collected $587, net +$387 (showed hand) [ 5s 4d ]

(a straight, four to eight)

LobsterBoy lost $120 (folded)


this one is just as miserable. figure id slowroll with the AA and ckraise the turn, and then the straight draw hits... AA is such a shit hand because your married to it and get killed.

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Game #126342103 - $20/$40 Hold'em - 2001/11/09-09:34:24 (CST)

Table "Jamaica" (real money) -- Seat 1 is the button

Seat 1: Kinder1 ($927 in chips)

Seat 2: imagine ($780 in chips)

Seat 3: FrankieBllz ($1,320 in chips)

Seat 4: smmck ($3,086.50 in chips)

Seat 5: Goonk ($600 in chips)

Seat 6: DanielShawn ($777 in chips)

Seat 7: shuttle ($747 in chips)

Seat 9: PokieOkie ($1,733 in chips)

Seat 10: LobsterBoy ($1,882 in chips)

imagine : Post Small Blind ($10)

FrankieBllz: Post Big Blind ($20)

Dealing...

Dealt to FrankieBllz [ As ]

Dealt to FrankieBllz [ Ac ]

smmck : Fold

Goonk : Fold

DanielShawn: Fold

shuttle : Fold

PokieOkie: Raise ($40)

LobsterBoy: Raise ($60)

Kinder1 : Fold

imagine : Fold

FrankieBllz: Call ($40)

PokieOkie: Call ($20)

*** FLOP *** : [ Qd 8c Js ]

FrankieBllz: Check

PokieOkie: Bet ($20)

LobsterBoy: Fold

FrankieBllz: Call ($20)

*** TURN *** : [ Qd 8c Js ] [ Th ]

FrankieBllz: Check

PokieOkie: Bet ($40)

FrankieBllz: Call ($40)

*** RIVER *** : [ Qd 8c Js Th ] [ 6c ]

FrankieBllz: Check

PokieOkie: Bet ($40)

FrankieBllz: Call ($40)

*** SUMMARY ***

Pot: $387 | Rake: $3

Board: [ Qd 8c Js Th 6c ]

Kinder1 didn't bet (folded)

imagine lost $10 (folded)

FrankieBllz lost $160 [ As Ac ] (a pair of aces)

smmck didn't bet (folded)

Goonk didn't bet (folded)

DanielShawn didn't bet (folded)

shuttle didn't bet (folded)

PokieOkie bet $160, collected $387, net +$227 (showed hand) [ Td 8h ] (two pair, tens and eights)

LobsterBoy lost $60 (folded)

PokieOkie is one of THE worst players on Paradise.....dontcha luv it.

Q: "Who the f*** calls for $20 early with 54off?"


A: Your best friend. Treat him well, he'll usually give you large presents.


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"AA is such a s*** hand because your married to it and get killed."


I recommend you don't get married to it. Try using AA like a powerful tool but throw it away if it breaks or becomes worthless. Relationships are a bad thing to rely on at the poker table.

frankie


pokie okie cost me about a k on saturday too...i see him lose at least 2K a day...but his motto is easy come/easy go...if you think calling 54 in early position is bad....he called 3 cold with 5-2 of diamonds...called a bet on the 998 flop with no diamonds....raised when a 2 hit on the turn, and called a reraise, and hit another 2 on the river to crack yes, you guess it bullets....yah, vegan....in theory, we should be really pleased with this and we know it, but it's fun to bitch about it....at least i enjoy it....if u can keep a smile on your face after being 2-6 outed out of 600 dollar pots twice in seven minutes to the same guy....more power to you...


that's why i keep two punching pillows near the computer....

currently, one is named pokie okie, and the other one blue octopus who raises with 4-2 and hits every single time...


good luck to all,

anurag

These three hands happen at almost the same time as yours. The second and third were back to back. The other player went thru $3200 of his money and $2800 of these three pots in 90 minutes. Six dimes in an hour and one half. You have to love poker.


MS Sunshine


Game #543646 Table Velden (Texas Holdem Pot)

#543646: Game starts

Player: BadBeat on Seat 1 Amount 1304.82

Player: dolornet on Seat 4 Amount 1531.36

Player: Mr. Freeze on Seat 5 Amount 200.75

Player: MrSpender on Seat 6 Amount 343.50

Player: TaiPanAK on Seat 7 Amount 759.94

Player: rik14 on Seat 8 Amount 688.48

Player: MS Sunshine on Seat 9 Amount 384.25

Player: Profane on Seat 10 Amount 508.00

Dealer Button set to MS Sunshine

Profane posts small blind 1.00 $

BadBeat posts big blind 2.00 $

Dealing Pocket


Your Card:


Your Card:

dolornet raises 7.00 $

Mr. Freeze calls 7.00 $

MrSpender calls 7.00 $

TaiPanAK calls 7.00 $

rik14 folds

MS Sunshine raises 45.00 $

Profane folds

BadBeat calls 43.00 $

dolornet raises 195.00 $

Mr. Freeze folds

MrSpender folds

TaiPanAK folds

Profane: LOL i dont believe this

MS Sunshine calls 157.00 $

BadBeat folds

Dealing Flop


Common Card:


Common Card:


Common Card:

worow: wow

dolornet bets 471.00 $

MS Sunshine calls 182.25 $ all in

dolornet gets back $288.75

Dealing Turn


Common Card:

Dealing River


Common Card:

dolornet shows a Pair of Sevens

#543646: dolornet wins (832.50 $)


dolornet shows


MS Sunshine mucks cards

BadBeat: ARRRRRRR I fold 76hearts

worow: lol

Game ended


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Game #543792 Table Velden (Texas Holdem Pot)

#543792: Game starts

Player: BadBeat on Seat 1 Amount 3371.29

Player: jaska on Seat 3 Amount 216.24

Player: dolornet on Seat 4 Amount 644.75

Player: TaiPanAK on Seat 7 Amount 1724.69

Player: MS Sunshine on Seat 9 Amount 979.23

Player: jimbob on Seat 10 Amount 989.00

Dealer Button set to BadBeat

dolornet posts small blind 1.00 $

TaiPanAK posts big blind 2.00 $

Dealing Pocket


Your Card:


Your Card:

MS Sunshine raises 7.00 $

jimbob calls 7.00 $

BadBeat calls 7.00 $

dolornet raises 36.00 $

TaiPanAK folds

MS Sunshine raises 120.00 $

jimbob folds

BadBeat folds

dolornet raises 360.00 $

MS Sunshine raises 852.23 $ all in

dolornet calls 247.75 $ all in

MS Sunshine gets back $334.48

Dealing Flop


Common Card:


Common Card:


Common Card:

Dealing Turn


Common Card:

Dealing River


Common Card:

MS Sunshine shows two pairs, Kings and Tens

dolornet shows three of a kind, Tens

#543792: dolornet wins (1302.50 $) with three of a kind, Tens


MS Sunshine shows


dolornet shows

Game ended

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Game #543797 Table Velden (Texas Holdem Pot)

#543797: Game starts

Player: BadBeat on Seat 1 Amount 3364.29

Player: jesem on Seat 2 Amount 100.00

Player: jaska on Seat 3 Amount 216.24

Player: dolornet on Seat 4 Amount 1302.50

Player: TaiPanAK on Seat 7 Amount 1722.69

Player: MS Sunshine on Seat 9 Amount 334.48

Player: jimbob on Seat 10 Amount 982.00

Dealer Button set to dolornet

TaiPanAK posts small blind 1.00 $

MS Sunshine posts big blind 2.00 $

Dealing Pocket


Your Card:


Your Card:

jimbob folds

BadBeat folds

jesem folds

jaska calls 2.00 $

dolornet raises 9.00 $

TaiPanAK calls 8.00 $

MS Sunshine raises 36.00 $

jaska folds

dolornet raises 116.00 $

TaiPanAK folds

MS Sunshine raises 296.48 $ all in

dolornet calls 209.48 $

Dealing Flop


Common Card:


Common Card:


Common Card:

Dealing Turn


Common Card:

Dealing River


Common Card:

MS Sunshine shows a Pair of Queens

dolornet shows a straight, Three to Seven

#543797: dolornet wins (676.96 $) with a straight, Three to Seven


MS Sunshine shows


dolornet shows

Game ended

Sorry, I don't know why the cards did not show, but


AKo vs 75o

KK vs JT

QQ vs 74o


MS Sunshine

Game #543646 Table Velden (Texas Holdem Pot)

#543646: Game starts

Player: BadBeat on Seat 1 Amount 1304.82

Player: dolornet on Seat 4 Amount 1531.36

Player: Mr. Freeze on Seat 5 Amount 200.75

Player: MrSpender on Seat 6 Amount 343.50

Player: TaiPanAK on Seat 7 Amount 759.94

Player: rik14 on Seat 8 Amount 688.48

Player: MS Sunshine on Seat 9 Amount 384.25

Player: Profane on Seat 10 Amount 508.00

Dealer Button set to MS Sunshine

Profane posts small blind 1.00 $

BadBeat posts big blind 2.00 $

Dealing Pocket


Your Card: Ace Spades


Your Card: King Clubs

dolornet raises 7.00 $

Mr. Freeze calls 7.00 $

MrSpender calls 7.00 $

TaiPanAK calls 7.00 $

rik14 folds

MS Sunshine raises 45.00 $

Profane folds

BadBeat calls 43.00 $

dolornet raises 195.00 $

Mr. Freeze folds

MrSpender folds

TaiPanAK folds

Profane: LOL i dont believe this

MS Sunshine calls 157.00 $

BadBeat folds

Dealing Flop


Common Card: Eight Hearts


Common Card: Nine Hearts


Common Card: Two Diamonds

worow: wow

dolornet bets 471.00 $

MS Sunshine calls 182.25 $ all in

dolornet gets back $288.75

Dealing Turn


Common Card: Seven Clubs

Dealing River


Common Card: Four Hearts

dolornet shows a Pair of Sevens

#543646: dolornet wins (832.50 $)


dolornet shows Seven Diamonds Five Spades


MS Sunshine mucks cards

BadBeat: ARRRRRRR I fold 76hearts

worow: lol

Game ended


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#543792: Game starts

Player: BadBeat on Seat 1 Amount 3371.29

Player: jaska on Seat 3 Amount 216.24

Player: dolornet on Seat 4 Amount 644.75

Player: TaiPanAK on Seat 7 Amount 1724.69

Player: MS Sunshine on Seat 9 Amount 979.23

Player: jimbob on Seat 10 Amount 989.00

Dealer Button set to BadBeat

dolornet posts small blind 1.00 $

TaiPanAK posts big blind 2.00 $

Dealing Pocket


Your Card:


Your Card:

MS Sunshine raises 7.00 $

jimbob calls 7.00 $

BadBeat calls 7.00 $

dolornet raises 36.00 $

TaiPanAK folds

MS Sunshine raises 120.00 $

jimbob folds

BadBeat folds

dolornet raises 360.00 $

MS Sunshine raises 852.23 $ all in

dolornet calls 247.75 $ all in

MS Sunshine gets back $334.48

Dealing Flop


Common Card:


Common Card:


Common Card:

Dealing Turn


Common Card:

Dealing River


Common Card:

MS Sunshine shows two pairs, Kings and Tens

dolornet shows three of a kind, Ten

#543792: dolornet wins (1302.50 $) with three of a kind, Tens


MS Sunshine shows


dolornet shows

Game ended

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Dealing Pocket


Your Card: Queen Hearts


Your Card: Queen Spades

jimbob folds

BadBeat folds

jesem folds

jaska calls 2.00 $

dolornet raises 9.00 $

TaiPanAK calls 8.00 $

MS Sunshine raises 36.00 $

jaska folds

dolornet raises 116.00 $

TaiPanAK folds

MS Sunshine raises 296.48 $ all in

dolornet calls 209.48 $

Dealing Flop


Common Card: Ten Diamonds


Common Card: Three Clubs


Common Card: Five Hearts

Dealing Turn


Common Card: Jack Spades

Dealing River


Common Card: Six Spades

MS Sunshine shows a Pair of Queens

dolornet shows a straight, Three to Seven

#543797: dolornet wins (676.96 $) with a straight, Three to Seven


MS Sunshine shows Queen Hearts Queen Spades


dolornet shows Seven Clubs Four Diamonds

Game ended

One player started this game with me with $150 and the last I saw he had $3400.


MS Sunshine

where is this? who spreads PLHE online?

45s is the nutz!

You decided to slowroll on a flop of QJ8? Remember, AA is just a pair with little chance of improving. True, it's often enough to win, but unless the flop is very ragged, you're always better off trying to eliminate opponents.


-MD

At least the PokieOkie is still on Paradise.

Frankie after those two suckouts with JJ and 88 you posted last week when you hit 2 outers on the river after knowing you were hopelessly beaten and also knowing you were't going to move the other guy off his hand, DO YOU REALLY HAVE JUSTIFIABLE CAUSE TO COMPLAIN ABOUT THESE TWO,CHICKENS COME HOME TO ROOST OLD FRIEND

Remeber this post frankie ?