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Clarkmeister
12-31-2004, 02:02 PM
http://www.anothersite.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11450

Clarkmeister
12-31-2004, 02:13 PM
This story (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=574&ncid=2337&e=13&u=/nm/20041231/wl_nm/quake_thailand_village_dc_1) is particularly haunting to me, with the visual of the woman trying to save her children.

Clarkmeister
12-31-2004, 02:18 PM
Satellite photos:

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20041230/capt.ny12112302334.tsunami_indonesia_ny121.jpg

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20041230/i/r3693364070.jpg

Zeno
12-31-2004, 02:49 PM
Great series of posts.

Here is an interesting article that is worth a read Future Tsunami? (http://unisci.com/stories/20013/0831011.htm)


I should add that the island of Hawaii (the Big Island) is also susceptible to a landslide (from Kilauea volcano) much like the Cumbre Vieya Volcano. In fact, remnants of ancient landslide deposits are evident under the Ocean on the SE side of the island of Hawaii.

The problems are well known and in fact large tsunami are historically common. Indonesia suffered greatly from tsunami in 1815 and 1883 from waves generated by large volcanic eruptions and also from earthquake events in the area that have effected the entire region. This whole thing is very disturbing to me for a variety of personal and professional reasons. Will this event prompt some change? I think the answer is very little if any at all.

-Zeno

Rick Nebiolo
12-31-2004, 02:50 PM
Thanks for posting the links. That said, I'm worried my machine will be overrun with porn spybots given the clips were posted to "the ADULT lost links - not safe for work" forum from who knows where /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

~ Rick

wacki
12-31-2004, 02:58 PM
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The problems are well known and in fact large tsunami are historically common. Indonesia suffered greatly from tsunami in 1815 and 1883 from waves generated by large volcanic eruptions and also from earthquake events in the area that have effected the entire region. This whole thing is very disturbing to me for a variety of personal and professional reasons. Will this event prompt some change? I think the answer is very little if any at all.

-Zeno

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I think you might be right about this.

wacki
12-31-2004, 03:01 PM
Immediately after Cumbre Vieja's collapse, a dome of water 900 meters high and tens of kilometers wide will form, only to collapse and rebound.

Wonderfull.

Any clue as to when this will happen?

Rick Nebiolo
12-31-2004, 03:01 PM
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This whole thing is very disturbing to me for a variety of personal and professional reasons. Will this event prompt some change? I think the answer is very little if any at all. -Zeno

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Years ago my mentor in an aerospace company told me "You need to face the fact that if you know a fire is likely to break out preventing it will do little for your career. Instead be ready with a bucket."

Somehow I believe his advice had some connection to the lack of organized warnings in the Indian Ocean.

~ Rick

PS I assume you have read the NY Times link posted today in this sub-forum.

Rick Nebiolo
12-31-2004, 03:03 PM
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Daryn, I change my mind about the whole moral thread. I'm still undecided, but I know it's never worth protecting idiots that won't listen to you. Although your logic may be different from mine, I think your were right in the end.

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What is the thread title?

Zeno
12-31-2004, 03:07 PM
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PS I assume you have read the NY Times link posted today in this sub-forum.

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Actually Rick, I did not. I didn't have to; I already know what it will say in my 'mind's eye'. I have dealt with all this stuff before. It's too depressing to read about it yet again.

-Zeno

wacki
12-31-2004, 03:08 PM
I removed it

Zeno
12-31-2004, 03:32 PM
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Any clue as to when this will happen?

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Roll the Dice.

With proper earthquake, deformation, and other monitoring, which I think is done, a short-term (days to months) forecast should be able to be issued and more immediate warnings broadcast in the event a large-scale collapse occurs. Of course, problems that always happen are: will there be proper communication to everyone through the right channels, will people listen and response properly, and also the old conundrum of issuing warnings and then nothing occurs, or not much occurs etc and etc. It's a tough call when in the trenches.

-Zeno

wacki
12-31-2004, 04:05 PM
Is there a likely range? Like sometime within the next 1-100 years likely? Or is it 1-1,000? Or is even that too tough to tell?

cnfuzzd
01-02-2005, 12:25 AM
we have discussed this before. check out this (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Number=1350161&page=&view=&s b=5&o=&vc=1) thread,


peace

john nickle

Sponger15SB
01-02-2005, 01:05 AM
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we have discussed this before. check out this (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Number=1350161&page=&view=&s b=5&o=&vc=1) thread,


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Well. Uh its a good thing my house isn't right on the ocean....

*runs away*