AQos in SB w/scary board

[BoogieDown]

No strong reads on opponents since I was only on the table for 2 orbits. Assume slightly loose, slightly agressive. My questions and thought process are below...


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Preflop: Hero is SB with Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO calls, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls, MP1 calls, CO calls.

I usually raise with AQos in the SB with 3 or less limpers. Should I be raising with 4+ limpers? With AKos I raise with 4+, but with AQos and out of position, I would rather see what the flop brings and proceed from there. Is this flawed thinking?


Flop: (8 SB) Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB folds, MP1 calls, CO calls.

Not the greatest flop...Lots of draws, so I bet out to avoid giving a free card.

Turn: (5.50 BB) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, CO calls, Hero calls.

Ugly card. Any K, 8, two pair or trips are ahead. I bet out to see where I stand. After I'm raised by MP1 and CO calls two cold, I'm pretty sure I'm behind. I call getting 10 to 1 drawing to discounted outs for a gutshot, trips and two pair.

River: (11.50 BB) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, CO calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 14.50 BB

Another scare card. After CO didn't raise, I assumed he wasn't on a flush draw plus calling one bet on the river closing the action with 13.5 to 1 odds, I called preparing for the worst. Was this a good call?

Thanks for your help!

[RitmoEnElCaos]

This will be my very first 2+2 post.

On the turn, you bet out to see where you stood and you got an answer. If there is ever a time to fold TPTK, this is it. On your turn call, pot is offering you over 10:1, but even a K has you often splitting the pot. Also, it's likely at least one K is in your opp's hand. I consider the remaining Qs and As to be partial outs at best here. I know if I call the turn I am commiting myself to call the river as well, so I fold the turn here.

Ritmo

[BoogieDown]

Thanks for the reply. What you say makes sense. Welcome to the forums. You also might want to know that a well respected poster named GuyOnTilt uses the same avatar.

Results:

Hero has Qc As (one pair, queens).
MP1 has Th Jh (two pair, jacks and tens).
CO has 9d 9h (three of a kind, nines).
Outcome: CO wins 14.50 BB.

[DemonDeac Holding Rockets]

Can't believe the cut off just cold called the flop with his set....idiot.

[lu_hawk]

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I call getting 10 to 1 drawing to discounted outs for a gutshot, trips and two pair.

River: (11.50 BB) 3 (3 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets, CO calls, Hero calls.


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So you called the turn hoping to spike a K. Fine but calling the river is bad and overcalling is very bad.

[RitmoEnElCaos]

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a well respected poster named GuyOnTilt uses the same avatar.

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Well in that case, in deference to GuyOnTilt, I change my avatar.

Ritmo