AJo

[BottlesOf]

Opponents are unremarkable

Party Poker 15/30 Hold'em (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, CO folds, Button folds, SB calls, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (11 SB) 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, Hero calls, SB calls.

Turn: (8 BB) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls, Hero calls, SB calls.

River: (12 BB) 4/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 12 BB

[SamIAm]

I dislike calling with over-cards. I feel like I'm just drawing for top-pair, which stinks. If you're reverse dominated, it really stinks.

I suppose you have the odds to call the flop bet, since it was raised preflop and there were callers before you on the flop. But the turn bet? If you don't give up here, when WOULD you give up? I don't call to the river just because I like my ace.
-Sam

[BottlesOf]

You're clearly neglecting the T

[Harv72b]

Yeah, I wouldn't even count on the gutshot outs, as it seems likely enough that you'd at least chop with someone else (if not lose to a QJ).

It's a draw-heavy board, yes, but I think this is one you dump on the turn.

EDIT: caveat: I've never played 5/10, so forgive me if I'm underestimating the kind of hands your opponents would hang in with and/or the implied odds if you hit.

[chesspain]

Looks standard?

[BWebb]

I don't see how else to play it. Flop is no brainer. Turn, your getting 10-1. I'll give you 5 outs at most, since with that many callers it's tough to believe the 10 or A /images/graemlins/heart.gif are clean. Same with the jacks. It's close, so I think folding and calling are both okay.

[PhatPots]

ooo this one is a bit tricky. But I think I would probably fold that flop. You can make a your inside straight, but you have to assume that the 10 of hearts is dirty because it may give someone a flush. Plus you have 2 aces that are clean (Hopefully). This give you 5 outs. I would call that flop, but I think a raise is better because then you can hopefully get a free card on the turn. But then again, if UTG+1 is on a flush draw, he will 3 bet. I would be concerned because even if you do hit a T, you might split the pot.

I think I would have folded that turn. You are probably behind.

Cheers, Pots

[BottlesOf]

It's 15/30 (so even softer), and if I'm chopping with another J, you don't "throw away" those outs, but merely chop them in half. I don't think there will be another J 100% of the time. Being scared of QJ should not be that big of a concern.

That being said, folding the turn may still be correct.

[BottlesOf]

Aside from a turn call I wasn't totally sure of, I think it was farily standard. I think it's a good illustrative hand for considering reverse-implied odds and evaluating partial outs.

[sfer]

Looks routine. I don't understand what everyone else is saying because I'd expect to win almost always with just an Ace on the river. Enough to value bet if checked to on the river.

[BottlesOf]

Agreed.

[Harv72b]

Caveat the second: I've never played 15/30 either, and I can't read.

[sfer]

This thinking is insanely scared.

[Tosh]

Begone with your dull hands already.

[BottlesOf]

HEY! It's not for you. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[sfer]

I want a location update.

[tipperdog]

Excluding the A /images/graemlins/heart.gif, I agree. This is a good example of discounting outs. Your jack outs are not likely to be good (giving someone a straight) and the A /images/graemlins/heart.gif is not likely to be good, so you're basically looking at 5 outs (2 aces and 3 tens). The pot is large enough to chase, especially since you're getting next-to-last action after UTG+1 bets, so there's little risk of a raise behind you.

[Tosh]

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I want a location update.

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I declared (does that word exist in USA?) on 425.

[Greg J]

Hey there -- micro regular and small stakes lurker here, and I have a question if it's okay.

What do you guys do if this happens in the flop instead?: Hero is MP3 with A/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
Flop: (11 SB) 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG+1 checks,<font color="red"> UTG+2 bets,</font> MP1 calls, Hero ???

And also this:
Flop: (11 SB) 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, <font color="red">MP1 bets, </font>Hero ...?

I have a pretty good idea, just want to make sure I am on the same page.

Thanks!

[AviD]

Yeah yer AJo