10-08-2001, 09:23 PM
The line for the OAK/NYY series is currently OAK -105 NYY -115 (it's dropped from OAK +120, heh... I got in at +105). More interestingly, here are the odds for each team to win in a specified number of games:
in 3: OAK +500 NYY +400
in 4: OAK +300 NYY +400
in 5: OAK +450 NYY +300
series: OAK -105 NYY -115
According to the series price, this is a fairly even matchup. Let's estimate the odds of either team winning any individual game at 0.5. Then the odds of the first four games being split 2-2 are 0.375 (six ways out of sixteen possible). Assuming the last game is approximately even, the odds that either team will win in 5 games are then 0.375 / 2 = 0.1875, or +433 on the moneyline.
"True" odds if each game is a tossup
in 3: OAK +700 NYY +700 (4/32)
in 4: OAK +433 NYY +433 (6/32)
in 5: OAK +433 NYY +433 (6/32)
series: OAK +100 NYY +100
If you buy this much, you'll agree that OAK in 5 seems to be a slight overlay - at least in a vacuum. Actually the first time I did this I came up with the true number at +333 which is obviously much better, but had an error in the math. Still, there is a slight plus value there all things being equal. But if OAK has an edge, they are more likely to win in 5. Of course they are also more likely to win in 3 or 4. I need to crunch some more numbers to figure the odds but I think that there is definite value in OAK in 5 games.
Just for fun, let's run the numbers for the CLE/SEA series (I don't have immediate access to NL game-by-game odds):
Current lines
in 3: CLE +800 SEA +300
in 4: CLE +500 SEA +250
in 5: CLE +600 SEA +250
series: CLE +215 SEA -245
Let's say for argument's sake that SEA should have a 0.6 chance of winning each game (that equates to a -150 moneyline). Then we have:
"True" odds if each game is SEA -150
in 3: CLE +1463 SEA +363
in 4: CLE +768 SEA +286
in 5: CLE +623 SEA +382
series: CLE +215 SEA -215
Heh, that worked out nicely - it looks like the average price for SEA should be around -215 per game. Note that SEA actually has a better chance of sweeping than of winning in 5 - as they become more favored (e.g. -200) that ratio is skewed even more to the sweep.
Given these numbers, I'd say if you had to bet take a shot at CLE in 5 or SEA in 4 (or CLE to win the series). Another consideration is possible hedging. My favorite bets are series bets AFTER game 1 or 2, when the lines are often quite wrong (mathematically, at least!)
The "true" numbers for the ATL/HOU series should be close to the first set above (series price ATL +100 HOU -120). The "true" numbers for the STL/ARI series should be close to the second set (series price STL +130 ARI -150). Although, the ARI series is different because the individual game prices should vary more due to pitching matchups being more lopsided (or perceived that way).
Nakor
in 3: OAK +500 NYY +400
in 4: OAK +300 NYY +400
in 5: OAK +450 NYY +300
series: OAK -105 NYY -115
According to the series price, this is a fairly even matchup. Let's estimate the odds of either team winning any individual game at 0.5. Then the odds of the first four games being split 2-2 are 0.375 (six ways out of sixteen possible). Assuming the last game is approximately even, the odds that either team will win in 5 games are then 0.375 / 2 = 0.1875, or +433 on the moneyline.
"True" odds if each game is a tossup
in 3: OAK +700 NYY +700 (4/32)
in 4: OAK +433 NYY +433 (6/32)
in 5: OAK +433 NYY +433 (6/32)
series: OAK +100 NYY +100
If you buy this much, you'll agree that OAK in 5 seems to be a slight overlay - at least in a vacuum. Actually the first time I did this I came up with the true number at +333 which is obviously much better, but had an error in the math. Still, there is a slight plus value there all things being equal. But if OAK has an edge, they are more likely to win in 5. Of course they are also more likely to win in 3 or 4. I need to crunch some more numbers to figure the odds but I think that there is definite value in OAK in 5 games.
Just for fun, let's run the numbers for the CLE/SEA series (I don't have immediate access to NL game-by-game odds):
Current lines
in 3: CLE +800 SEA +300
in 4: CLE +500 SEA +250
in 5: CLE +600 SEA +250
series: CLE +215 SEA -245
Let's say for argument's sake that SEA should have a 0.6 chance of winning each game (that equates to a -150 moneyline). Then we have:
"True" odds if each game is SEA -150
in 3: CLE +1463 SEA +363
in 4: CLE +768 SEA +286
in 5: CLE +623 SEA +382
series: CLE +215 SEA -215
Heh, that worked out nicely - it looks like the average price for SEA should be around -215 per game. Note that SEA actually has a better chance of sweeping than of winning in 5 - as they become more favored (e.g. -200) that ratio is skewed even more to the sweep.
Given these numbers, I'd say if you had to bet take a shot at CLE in 5 or SEA in 4 (or CLE to win the series). Another consideration is possible hedging. My favorite bets are series bets AFTER game 1 or 2, when the lines are often quite wrong (mathematically, at least!)
The "true" numbers for the ATL/HOU series should be close to the first set above (series price ATL +100 HOU -120). The "true" numbers for the STL/ARI series should be close to the second set (series price STL +130 ARI -150). Although, the ARI series is different because the individual game prices should vary more due to pitching matchups being more lopsided (or perceived that way).
Nakor