Questions regarding Homer's thread - Help please!!!

[ClaytonN]

1) Which among the four crypto sites should I start out at?

2) William Hill Poker does not show as FirePay useable (I do not use Neteller yet). Any way to use William Hill w/ Firepay?

3) The smallest limits are 1$/2$. Whatever Crypto site I choose, is this seriously doable with only $100??

[Losing all]

1&2 I don't know.

3) Not near enough! I wouldn't even play .50/1 with that bankroll. I suggest UB, stars, or paradise until you build a whore worthy roll.

[ClaytonN]

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Not near enough! I wouldn't even play .50/1 with that bankroll. I suggest UB, stars, or paradise until you build a whore worthy roll.

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I get the idea Homer knows something I don't, though, because he specifically states to try out these sites with your $100 roll.

Building a bankroll (for newbies) (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=inet&Number=1060198&Forum= All_Forums&Words=Newbies%20Bankroll&Searchpage=0&L imit=25&Main=1060198&Search=true&where=bodysub&Nam e=167&daterange=1&newerval=&newertype=&olderval=&o ldertype=&bodyprev=#Post1060198)

[AncientPC]

1) If you're only depositing $100 then WH and TotalBet as they pay £5/hr (as long as you sign up through WH's UK site).

2) If it doesn't list it, then no. However WH does not require a PIN number to cash out.

3) Yes if you play tight as a drum.

[phuc]

the other option, which is still risky, but less so than 1/2 holdem with a $100 bankroll, is to do a casino bonus (like 100% on $100) first to build your bankroll.

[Jay36489]

$100 is a little low for 1/2. I'm not sure homer too that into account.

[trentcroad]

Dont play on the cryptos if thats ur total bankroll.
U can loose 50BB without too much trouble regardless of how good u r!

I think its a good place to whore when uve got a bit of a BR already.

[Subby]

$100 is plenty to get started whoring cryptos! The only drawback is that since you have to wait for the PIN to withdraw, it will take a while to move money from site to site. Just be patient for the first month or so. And figure out how to get a Neteller account or you will be missing out on $35 free from WillHill.

Here is a fairly low-risk way to start (again, patience is the key):

1) Deposit $100 at PokerPlex. You just need to play 300 hands to get a $50 bonus at this site. The hands do not need to be raked and you do not have to contribute to the pot...you just have to be dealt cards. To make a it go faster, you can multitable at least two $1/2 tables (start with $50 at each). Do a search for CryptoCounter on this forum and download and install that - it will keep track of the number of total hands you play so that you don't play any unnecessary hands (low-risk is the key here). Two-tabling PokerPlex will enable you to knock this bonus out in about two and a half hours. Assuming you play like a rock, you should now have ~$150.

Now you wait, as the PIN takes about two weeks to reach the US (it is sent out as soon as deposit). Once you get it, withdraw and then split your burgeoning roll between two rooms (this way you will have two PINs sent out to you at the same time):

2a) Deposit $80 at Caribbean Sun. $40 bonus for just 250 hands - no rake or contribution required, you just need to be dealt hands. Again, multi-tabling 1/2 makes this go faster and if you two table you can knock it out in just over two hours.

2b) Deposit $70 at Totalbet Poker. This site pays 25 pounds (~$37) for 5 hours of play. The beauty is that this rate is tabulated per table, so you can multitable and make it go quickly. If you two-table, then it goes by in just 2.5 hours.

Keep playing like a rock, wait for your PINs from both sites and now you should have around $220. Now split that between these two sites:

3a) Deposit $100 at UKBetting Poker. Like Totalbet, they pay 25 pounds for 5 hours of play. Multi-table and knock this out quickly.

3b) Deposit $90 at InterPoker. They match up to $90 (and it hits your account immediately), but you'll have a harder time clearing here as you are required 450 raked hands to clear (and only about 60-65% of hands get raked at 1/2). Not interminable, but it will take you a good 800 or so total hands to clear. Save this one for later in the month - the tables have loosened up and a greater % of hands will get raked.

In about six weeks time, assuming things have gone well, you have been patient and played like a rock (ie. kept your variance to a minimum) you should have around $340 with a minimum amount of risk.

Some additional thoughts:

- Figure out how to get money into Neteller and add WillHill to this rotation and you'll have even more money.

- If you are insanely patient and have a huge aversion to risk, then you could divide the above three steps into five and just deposit at one card room at a time.

- Some affiliates offer signup bonuses for these sites, but beware because the playthrough requirements are MUCH more strenuous. Again, if you are super-patient, then there is additional money to be made out there.

- This is not fool-proof, just one person's experience.

Good luck.

[moondogg]

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This site pays 25 pounds (~$37)

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The current exchange rate is around 1 pound ~= $1.91, so the 25 pounds is about $48.

[Rudbaeck]

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3) The smallest limits are 1$/2$. Whatever Crypto site I choose, is this seriously doable with only $100??

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You should seriously consider doing the bonus whoring playing limit omaha/8 or even limit omaha. Low limit o/8 has an incredibly low variance, you only play the nuts or draws to the nuts, the other 9 bozos play any four cards...

[Subby]

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This site pays 25 pounds (~$37)

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The current exchange rate is around 1 pound ~= $1.91, so the 25 pounds is about $48.

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Even better! Thanks for correcting that for me...

[groo]

I'm new to poker and have minimal skills, but do play tightly (18%VPIP), I wouldn't hesitate to to whore the Crypto sites. The 1/2 hold 'em games are so tight/passive with all the people clearing time bonuses that a tight semi aggresive player, will win most hands bet for value and semi bluff their way into many pots even when they miss the flop. As pointed out earlier tight means minimal variance.

While the play is incredibly slow (40-45 total hands per hour), it has also encouraged me to start multi tabling, which has increased my win rate. I cleared the 5hr william hill bonus in about 2 hrs yesterday and won $60 plus bonus. If I could do that regularly, I'd call my boss and say, "I have an eye problem, I just can't see coming in today" /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Tight is Might at the crypto skins.

[Yads]

If your BR is $100 you can easily start bonus whoring playing Omaha 8. It might be a bit of a stretch to play $1/$2, but if you don't have a really bad run it should be enough. It's the safest game assuming you know what you're doing.

[PoorLawyer]

i had no problems depositing 90 the 1st month and getting the bonus at 1/2 stud. Then I withdrew 150 and redeposited 100 for the december bonus. I just withdrew another 150 which left me with 200 in neteller a little under 100 still at interpoker. I would say it is doable with just $100 whoring bankroll. I havent branched out to other sites yet though in my dip into the whoring game...

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$100 is a little low for 1/2. I'm not sure homer too that into account.

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[ClaytonN]

O8, of course! I can hang with O8. Forgot about that, thanks.