** Official ** Super Tuesday on Party, 12/28/04

[Zinzan]

You're letting me down, guys.

-Z

[Lloyd]

Ok, Ok. Table 44 Magic Pig. Strassa on my left.

[Rizen]

Table 45, good luck all.

-Rizen

[Rizen]

Just got moved to table #6... been a boring 1st hour, think I've played 3 hands so far...

-Rizen

[Rizen]

Very uneventful. Limped with a few PPs and came in with KQ a few times, besides that haven't seen anything and been blinded down to T795.

-Rizen

[Lloyd]

Table 13 w/T120
Magic Pig

Been involved in maybe 5 hands with no chip battles. I've had a bad streak in the Supers and I think I was playing too aggressively and getting involved in marginal hands up front. So tonight, I'm playing very straight forward (for at least the time being).

[Zinzan]

t3420, mostly on a big stack coming in and trying to push me off my straight.

-Z

[Chief911]

Was up close to 4k, but first hand after the break I set a smaller stack all in with AhQh, he calls me with AsTs, and hits his flush. Booo Hisss!

Nick

[Rizen]

Finally picked up a hand (KK) and went out 268 to 55. Good luck all.

-Rizen

[Lloyd]

Second Break Table 13 T2585 Magic Pig

I'm about T1400 and push w/77. Get called by big stack w/AK. Hits a K on the flop and I hit a 7 on the turn. I then raise in MP w/TT. Get a caller and an A hits the flop. I check-fold to AK.

Before this happened: Blinds are 75/150 and I have about T1600. I get dealt AJo in EP and fold. Next hand I get dealth AJs in early position and fold. Would anybody raise with either of those hands in this situation? I just felt I didn't have enough chips to fold to a raise, which I would certainly do.

[Zinzan]

t7112. AQ lucked out against KK.

-Z

[Lloyd]

I'm out. UTG+1 raises. I have KK and push. Get called by AA and he hits a set.

[aces961]

7300 chips table 6 BoiledOver.
Doubled up with aces from 3k to 6k a little while ago.

[Jason Strasser]

17.5k third break

[Zinzan]

t13.5K (avg. is t8.2K). 9 from the money.

Haven't really played many hands.

Finally found AA in the hole. Thought about limping (saw someone double up the hand before by limping with KK), but it's almost always went against me when I limp.

Stole the blinds.

That's okay.

Played at the chipleader's table for a long time (davidfaulk), so had to be careful.

-Z

[Jason Strasser]

df is good

[Rizen]

FWIW I lay down that AJ from EP both times as well... it's a sucker hand. You either pick up the blinds or get called and are WAY behind.

-Rizen

[LethalRose]

if anyone has the time im curious why you guys prefer party MTT's over poker stars and other sites.

[Rizen]

I prefer Stars tournaments over Party's because of the structure (the starting chips and the antes/blinds), but the Super Weekday tournaments for Party are pretty good (the blinds increase every 20 mins instead of 15) and they usually get a fair amount of players from satellites making for a good sized prize pool.

-Rizen

[Zinzan]

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if anyone has the time im curious why you guys prefer party MTT's over poker stars and other sites.

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No preference for me... just started on Party because I heard the games were softer, and stuck with it. I just recently put some money in Poker Stars, but haven't played any MTTs there yet. I plan to.

Does seem like it's easier to sort through available sit-n-go tables at Party, though. Poker Stars just seems... funny to me right now... I'm sure I'll get used to it.

-Z

[aces961]

Did you change your username on party recently, I can't seem to find you in the tourney lobby


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t13.5K (avg. is t8.2K). 9 from the money.

Haven't really played many hands.

Finally found AA in the hole. Thought about limping (saw someone double up the hand before by limping with KK), but it's almost always went against me when I limp.

Stole the blinds.

That's okay.

Played at the chipleader's table for a long time (davidfaulk), so had to be careful.

-Z

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[LethalRose]

How are the blinds/antes different with each site? PS has 15 min blinds and party seems to as well. Do the Stars blinds start off lower?

[Rizen]

Stars go up every 15 minutes as well, but at 100/200 they add 25 antes at the next level rather than raising the blinds to 200/400. So it goes something like 100/200, then 15 mins later 100/200 25 ante, then 200/400 25 ante, etc. Because they add/increment antes the minimum bet sizes/increments stay a little lower and it seems to take longer to be an all in fest.

You also start out with 1500 chips vs 1000, and that alone gives you a little bit longer before you get to a situation where everyone just goes all in all the time, which is what it seems like Party tournaments degenerate too by the 3rd break, especially once hand for hand play starts. Just my .02 though.

-Rizen

[LethalRose]

Ah ok ty for you're input. The only thing I wish stars would is make it easier to retrieve hands..party's save to hd feature it awesome.

another thing about stars is you can enter satellite and get your money back..im currently trying out a 3+ rebuy tournament to see if i can get a nice 200$ boost to my br.

[Zinzan]

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Did you change your username on party recently, I can't seem to find you in the tourney lobby

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Playing on my cousin's account.

I was at t15K, when I get 88 on the button. EP shortie raises to 1500, CO with t11K calls. I decide that, in position, it's worth a look. I call.

Flop comes 333. Check, check. Quick look at the tourney lobby, and I see we're two from the money. If I somehow lose maximum chips here, I'll still have 4K, enough to limp into the money.

I bet out t2000. EP folds. CO goes in the tank, and I know he's gonna push on a bluff. He does. I call. He turns over Ace Ten, which is what I expected, but he hits an Ace on the river. Ouch!

Maybe I should have pushed on the flop if I was willing to call for most of my chips. But I wasn't sure I had the best hand until EP folded and CO went in the tank. Oh well...

t5994 now, after a double up with KK. But blinds are 500/1000... just folded TJ UTG as we're one away from the next money level. :/

Oh, my cousin's account is JerryClower. Table #3, but not much life left.

Haw!

-Z

[Zinzan]

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Ah ok ty for you're input. The only thing I wish stars would is make it easier to retrieve hands..party's save to hd feature it awesome.

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Oh yeah, I forgot that... love how well it's integrated with Poker Tracker!

-Z

[aces961]

Well I just got to moved to table 3 as well. So what do you guys do with aqo utg with a stack size of 8 big blinds.

[Zinzan]

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Stars go up every 15 minutes as well, but...

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I thought Party's levels in MTTs were 20 minutes? No?

And the larger tournaments (200K, Quarter Million, etc) on Party are now starting us out with t1500.

-Z

[aces961]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Stars go up every 15 minutes as well, but...

[/ QUOTE ]

I thought Party's levels in MTTs were 20 minutes? No?


And the larger tournaments (200K, Quarter Million, etc) on Party are now starting us out with t1500.

-Z

[/ QUOTE ]


They are 20 minutes for the larger buyins. The smaller buy ins are 15 minute blind levels.

[LethalRose]

so it seems start out at stars then once you get a nice BR and some experience move over to party for the big tournaments.

[aces961]

Just pushed in with 88 for 6500 chips utg and got called by the button with a7c. The eights held up and I'm at 14k.

[Jason Strasser]

25.8k fourth

[Zinzan]

t11694, table #3 with strassa and boiledover (aces961).

avg stack is t18000. 36 left. blinds will be 750/1500.

-Z

[Jason Strasser]

qq runs into qq. Then KK calls behind us and we are in deep trouble ... out

[Zinzan]

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qq runs into qq. Then KK calls behind us and we are in deep trouble ... out

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Yeah, you didn't have a lot of outs there, strassa. Good game.

Made my fold in the BB with JJ pretty easy, though!

-Z

[Zinzan]

strassa out at 22, BoiledOver at 19, and JerryClower at 18.

Here's my destruction:

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t2000 (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Hero (t34302)
UTG (t26214)
UTG+1 (t60817)
MP1 (t28520)
MP2 (t23198)
MP3 (t98584)
CO (t23547)
Button (t11278)
SB (t83195)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls t2000, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, Hero checks.

<font color="green">For just a second, UTG+1's limp looked suspicious to me. "Oh well," I thought, "This is a hand where I want to see the flop cheap."</font>

Flop: (t5000) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t5000</font>, UTG+1 calls t5000.

<font color="green">Hey! Wait... hmmm... well, I have to take a stab at it.</font>

Turn: (t15000) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t10000</font>,

<font color="green">Well, the odds are pretty good now he doesn't have a ten, right?</font>

<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to t22300</font>,

<font color="green">Hmmm... not looking quite so certain now, but I can't lay this down, can I? I'm pretty much pot-committed--I'm a long way from the next money level, and these chips would be very nice in my stack.</font>

<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t27302 (All-In)</font>, UTG+1 calls t5002.

River: (t69604) 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t69604

Not sure how I feel about this hand. Perhaps a better player could have gotten away from this? But even if I had slowed down on the turn, I would have called his bet. Maybe that's what I should have done... figuring if he bets and I call, my hand is probably more likely to be good then if I bet and he calls?

If he had a ten, I probably wouldn't be as bothered about the results. What does bother me is that his PF limp was suspicious to me (AA? KK?), but by the turn, it was out of my mind.

Anyway, I was lucky to get this far... AQ beat KK, QJ beat AQ.

-Z