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sammy_g
12-27-2004, 03:32 AM
Party 30+3 SnG. I'm beginning to think this was a really bad fold. Thoughts?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

MP2 (t595)
MP3 (t975)
CO (t675)
Button (t245)
SB (t1500)
Hero (t945)
UTG (t760)
UTG+1 (t775)
MP1 (t1530)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 9/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t100</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO folds, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t245 (All-In)</font>, SB folds, Hero calls t195, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t760 (All-In)</font>, Hero folds.

Flop: (t1275) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Turn: (t1275) A/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

River: (t1275) J/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t1275
citanul
12-27-2004, 03:40 AM
fold the first time preflop.

i don't think this is close, at all.

i'd like to say that i've seen closer decisions in "should i fold AA preflop to the short stack in a freeroll super satellite" questions, but that one was just retarded.

citanul
ChrisV
12-27-2004, 05:49 AM
Fold as your first action. Calling the second time would be terrible.
citanul
12-27-2004, 12:47 PM
Man, I like ChrisV. We agree alot. I've got to get my hand on this ICM thingy he uses all the time, so I can produce exactly the same posts as he does.

citanul
sammy_g
12-27-2004, 05:07 PM
Button had AQ and UTG had AK. UTG won a nice pot.

I was second-guessing my fold because I would have been a favorite in the hand getting 2.5:1 on my call. I also thought that both button and UTG might have worse hands than normal to make these raises since button was short-stacked and all-in. But this is results-oriented thinking I guess (even though I would have lost the hand...).
betgo
12-27-2004, 05:47 PM
You would have had good odds in this case, but with a raise and reraise you have no way of knowing someone didn't have a bigger pair.