If you're serious about becoming an expert limit texas holdem player

[Shawn Keller]

Sorry to cross post this between the mid-highstakes forum but I thought it would interest some of you guys that don't read both forums so here goes:

I give poker lesson in mid and high limit holdem. I can teach anyone from a rank amatuer to a winning professional player, who wants to maximize his EV as much as possible in the games he's playing or learn how to beat a higher limit game). I don't really have a going "rate" because it usually depends upon the students financial situation (I have some students that I bankroll and get a percentage of the profits ect) but I would be willing to teach a 4 hour session from my home office in Chandler, Arizona. It wouldn't be cheap $2000 for the 4 hours of play, from limits of your choosing ranging from 15-30 on partypoker, to 100-200 headsup or short on paradisepoker, or 200-400 headsup on ultimatebet. Also I would want half the action at least since I have a huge edge in the these games, I don't want to be costing myself money teachin. /images/graemlins/smile.gif I have found its best to teach people while they are watching me play online or playing themselves and i'm looking over them (I have 4 computers in my office but only one 21 inch LCD). This way I can explain to you exactly how I am reading the hands and also I can explain to you if what you wanted to do is a standard pro play, maybe slightly negative EV, or a very negative EV play. If I sweat you playing 200-400 at the commerce casino or if you sweat me playing 200-400 or 400-800 live, I can't go into nearly as much detail at the table (because I'd be giving away crucial information to the other players or having to whipser and it looks all sketchy) with you as I could online.

Keep in mind I will play against virutally any competition and if you don't want any of the action will gladly take 100% of the action while teaching you at the same time, for $2000 for a 4 hour session. I only teach limit texas holdem, its by far my best game, I wouldn't feeling comfortable teaching no limit yet, well not at least till I get a few more lessons from prahlad aka spirit rock .

Private message me only if you take the game seriously and have a great desire to become better in all aspects of the game (you don't have to be a good poker player at this stage for me to be able to impact your game greatly,)

If you are already a moderately skilled looking to become an expert limit player then you would probably benefit signifcantly more from one 4 hour session than an amatuer would in term's of long-term EV. Most of this would be because I wouldn't have to dicuss preflop and we could really delve into post flop play and hand reading and valuebetting.

I'm going to start posting a few big limit hands like 200-400 and 100-200 limit hands in the mid-stakes forum for your education and amusement, it feels good to give back to a forum that helped me tremendously improve my hand reading abilities. Keep in mind becoming a real professional poker player requires great displine, great bankroll management, NOT having any leaks like craps or blackjack or slots, ideally negative EV betting and if you do make a negative EV gamble you have to learn from your mistake and not keep repeating that mistake or similar mistakes. Also I recommend reading John Feeney's "Inside The Poker Mind" as well as HPFAP before you would even want instruction from me, it would make more worth your time (assuming you earn under $100 an hour) to have read both those books at least once before working a 4 hour session with me.

Happy holidays,

Shawn "Lightning" Keller

[teddyFBI]

And just how is this different from affiliate Spam again?

[Cardzy]

This appears to be an advertisement which would be against the posting rules, but I'm not a moderator so I will let them determine that.

My question is this. You only have 22 posts on this forum. What are your qualifications that make you worth $500 an hour? Who are you? What is your experience? how long have you been playing? How long at each limit? What are your win rates bb/100? etc. etc. etc.

Besides the fact that this post appears innapropriate in the first place, you not being a regular poster, and lack of information within the post, you have given no qualifications that you are worth $500 an hour to teach someone.

[chesspain]

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[Overdrive]

[ QUOTE ]
Sorry to cross post this between the mid-highstakes forum but I thought it would interest some of you guys that don't read both forums so here goes:

I give poker lesson in mid and high limit holdem. I can teach anyone from a rank amatuer to a winning professional player, who wants to maximize his EV as much as possible in the games he's playing or learn how to beat a higher limit game). I don't really have a going "rate" because it usually depends upon the students financial situation (I have some students that I bankroll and get a percentage of the profits ect) but I would be willing to teach a 4 hour session from my home office in Chandler, Arizona. It wouldn't be cheap $2000 for the 4 hours of play, from limits of your choosing ranging from 15-30 on partypoker, to 100-200 headsup or short on paradisepoker, or 200-400 headsup on ultimatebet. Also I would want half the action at least since I have a huge edge in the these games, I don't want to be costing myself money teachin. /images/graemlins/smile.gif I have found its best to teach people while they are watching me play online or playing themselves and i'm looking over them (I have 4 computers in my office but only one 21 inch LCD). This way I can explain to you exactly how I am reading the hands and also I can explain to you if what you wanted to do is a standard pro play, maybe slightly negative EV, or a very negative EV play. If I sweat you playing 200-400 at the commerce casino or if you sweat me playing 200-400 or 400-800 live, I can't go into nearly as much detail at the table (because I'd be giving away crucial information to the other players or having to whipser and it looks all sketchy) with you as I could online.

Keep in mind I will play against virutally any competition and if you don't want any of the action will gladly take 100% of the action while teaching you at the same time, for $2000 for a 4 hour session. I only teach limit texas holdem, its by far my best game, I wouldn't feeling comfortable teaching no limit yet, well not at least till I get a few more lessons from prahlad aka spirit rock .

Private message me only if you take the game seriously and have a great desire to become better in all aspects of the game (you don't have to be a good poker player at this stage for me to be able to impact your game greatly,)

If you are already a moderately skilled looking to become an expert limit player then you would probably benefit signifcantly more from one 4 hour session than an amatuer would in term's of long-term EV. Most of this would be because I wouldn't have to dicuss preflop and we could really delve into post flop play and hand reading and valuebetting.

I'm going to start posting a few big limit hands like 200-400 and 100-200 limit hands in the mid-stakes forum for your education and amusement, it feels good to give back to a forum that helped me tremendously improve my hand reading abilities. Keep in mind becoming a real professional poker player requires great displine, great bankroll management, NOT having any leaks like craps or blackjack or slots, ideally negative EV betting and if you do make a negative EV gamble you have to learn from your mistake and not keep repeating that mistake or similar mistakes. Also I recommend reading John Feeney's "Inside The Poker Mind" as well as HPFAP before you would even want instruction from me, it would make more worth your time (assuming you earn under $100 an hour) to have read both those books at least once before working a 4 hour session with me.

Happy holidays,

Shawn "Lightning" Keller

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That's funny because I read about you on a different website. It said that you have gone broke playing poker numerous times and that you are frequently seen begging other players for loans in cardrooms and on-line. You aren't even a winning player yourself so anyone who would buy something from you is insane. I also heard that you are really Dutch Boyd and that this is your new scam.

[MicroBob]

I don't think $2000 is enough.

If I pay you $4000 can you make me twice as good?

Thanks.

[The4Aces]

Do you know "Thunder" Keller?

[BusterStacks]

"Thunder" Keller is a winning player... he rules.

[The4Aces]

I know thunder keller rules, but this guy is "lightning" keller. Maybe he is trying to confuse people.

[fsuplayer]

what a joke.

[LondonBroil]

I'll teach anyone for only $1,500 for 4 hours of play. That's an immediate win of $500!

[Barry_G]

Well I charge $1000 an hour must make me twice as good as him.

[MicroBob]

does the 4-hour lesson include precise details of exactly HOW and WHY I am getting an immediate win of $500?
If so, then SIGN ME UP!!

I'm a bit slow....so this issue alone might take the whole 4 hours.
Can I get a 2nd 4-hour lesson where you then tell me what cards I should play pre-flop?

[LondonBroil]

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does the 4-hour lesson include precise details of exactly HOW and WHY I am getting an immediate win of $500?
If so, then SIGN ME UP!!

I'm a bit slow....so this issue alone might take the whole 4 hours.
Can I get a 2nd 4-hour lesson where you then tell me what cards I should play pre-flop?

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Boy are you in luck. For today only, the first 17 people to sign up for my 4-hour lesson will get a 2nd 4-hour lesson at a 5% discount! That's right, only $1,425!

[MicroBob]

That means that we'll be spending the 2nd lesson with you explaining to me why a 5% discount makes it only $1425.

[Emperor]

This violates the one player to a hand rule.

This teacher and his students should be banned from all online poker sites that catch him doing this.

Advertising that you are a cheater is just stupid. Conspiring to cheat with others is even more stupid.

[Lazymeatball]

There is no one player to a hand rule online. As long as the two players aren't getting dealt two hands at the same table, it's acceptable for more than one player to a hand online. Also, if there were such a rule, it would be completely unenforceable.

[ClaytonN]

FYI guys:

Shawn is Thunder Keller's identical twin.

Shawn plays at PS under the name chickenlittl. According to DanDruff he's a winning player at PS 100-200

[Thythe]

I think you've been playing too much B&M poker. No such rule online.

[BabyJesus]

I know of Shawn Keller, he is Thomas "Thunder" Keller's brother. He is a great limit player, I know a few of the players that they have trained (Thomas and Shawn). From what I've heard they beat the PS 100-200 game. If this is in fact Shawn Keller I can assure you that he is the real deal and can teach people a lot about playing poker. All the info in his post does check out. I do know they live in AZ and have a computer set up thing working there, where they train people to beat online games.

[Ulysses]

Lightning,

Are you catchoftheday on UB? If so, I'd love to hear "exactly how you were reading the hand" and whether your play was the "standard pro play" here. This would be a great preview of your teaching style and playing approach for those of us who are considering the lessons.

catchoftheday 80-160 hand (http://www.pokerhand.org/index.php?page=view&hand=21804)

Thanks!

[aLOWdAkING]

^Haha, wow!

[gabyyyyy]

[ QUOTE ]
Sorry to cross post this between the mid-highstakes forum but I thought it would interest some of you guys that don't read both forums so here goes:

I give poker lesson in mid and high limit holdem. I can teach anyone from a rank amatuer to a winning professional player, who wants to maximize his EV as much as possible in the games he's playing or learn how to beat a higher limit game). I don't really have a going "rate" because it usually depends upon the students financial situation (I have some students that I bankroll and get a percentage of the profits ect) but I would be willing to teach a 4 hour session from my home office in Chandler, Arizona. It wouldn't be cheap $2000 for the 4 hours of play, from limits of your choosing ranging from 15-30 on partypoker, to 100-200 headsup or short on paradisepoker, or 200-400 headsup on ultimatebet. Also I would want half the action at least since I have a huge edge in the these games, I don't want to be costing myself money teachin. I have found its best to teach people while they are watching me play online or playing themselves and i'm looking over them (I have 4 computers in my office but only one 21 inch LCD). This way I can explain to you exactly how I am reading the hands and also I can explain to you if what you wanted to do is a standard pro play, maybe slightly negative EV, or a very negative EV play. If I sweat you playing 200-400 at the commerce casino or if you sweat me playing 200-400 or 400-800 live, I can't go into nearly as much detail at the table (because I'd be giving away crucial information to the other players or having to whipser and it looks all sketchy) with you as I could online.

Keep in mind I will play against virutally any competition and if you don't want any of the action will gladly take 100% of the action while teaching you at the same time, for $2000 for a 4 hour session. I only teach limit texas holdem, its by far my best game, I wouldn't feeling comfortable teaching no limit yet, well not at least till I get a few more lessons from prahlad aka spirit rock .

Private message me only if you take the game seriously and have a great desire to become better in all aspects of the game (you don't have to be a good poker player at this stage for me to be able to impact your game greatly,)

If you are already a moderately skilled looking to become an expert limit player then you would probably benefit signifcantly more from one 4 hour session than an amatuer would in term's of long-term EV. Most of this would be because I wouldn't have to dicuss preflop and we could really delve into post flop play and hand reading and valuebetting.

I'm going to start posting a few big limit hands like 200-400 and 100-200 limit hands in the mid-stakes forum for your education and amusement, it feels good to give back to a forum that helped me tremendously improve my hand reading abilities. Keep in mind becoming a real professional poker player requires great displine, great bankroll management, NOT having any leaks like craps or blackjack or slots, ideally negative EV betting and if you do make a negative EV gamble you have to learn from your mistake and not keep repeating that mistake or similar mistakes. Also I recommend reading John Feeney's "Inside The Poker Mind" as well as HPFAP before you would even want instruction from me, it would make more worth your time (assuming you earn under $100 an hour) to have read both those books at least once before working a 4 hour session with me.

Happy holidays,

Shawn "Lightning" Keller

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Is this some sort of sick joke.

Who in their right mind would pay a stranger 2 grand to teach them to play poker?

Why not use the 2 grand to practice and lose if luck does not go your way?

No offense, but this sounds like a rip off. Fair warning for rank amateurs out there. If this poster was so great he would not be teaching people how to play. He would understand that it hurts the good players when bad players learn how to play better poker.

Stay far away from this offer.

[Shawn Keller]

No this is not a joke although I wasn't expecting nor really desiring any work from it. I simply thought that there might be a few players on this forum who might desire my services.

Precisely for the reason's that you state, being that I am a great player I really don't need to teach or post 1600+ times on 2+2, my time is very valuable, and while I enjoy reading 2+2 recreationallly I don't post here much. I used to post here annonymously 5 years back when there was better dissection of hands I thought and not so many haters or affiliate junkies.

Thomas Keller and I are identical twins (we don't look identical these days though), both graduated from Stanford University with a B.A. in economics at age 20. We were never really professional magic the gathering players, although I made about $40,000 on the magic pro tour by the time I was 19, and was for a brief time second highest rated magic the gathering player in the world.

Thomas and I started playing poker when we were 17. Someone at Casino Arizona coined thomas with the nickname Thunder and they called me Lightning. The only game I would feel comfortable teaching right now is limit texas holdem.

Thank you graciously to all the people who came out and said I was legitimate, I am chickenlittl on PS and catchoftheday on UB.

One poster asked about if my play was "standard pro play" I have to say my play in the 25-50 no limit game has been a bit goofy at times, that is one of the tougher games I've ever played in, I think reading people in no limit online is mucher more complicated than reading them in B&M play. I play a lot of 80-160 limit holdem that is much more my game

Best of luck!

Shawn "Lightning" Keller

[Shawn Keller]

Yes this is my standard play I play everyhand this bad /images/graemlins/wink.gif HAHAHA I knew that when you had a hand linked which hand it was exactly before I opened the link, that was a clicking mistake that I made because I was playing in 3 full games and almost instanteously the 80-160 game and the 30-60 on ub went from about full to 3-4 handed. I called the flop because I thought i had a gutshot (misread the board which is a type of mistake that I make extremely rarely) and on the turn i thought i had a gutshot along with my middle pair, was about a 100-1 to beat chris pikula lol, he's my buddy too so I felt dirty about it for sure.

Making mistakes like that need to be minimized to have a positive EV. Keep in mind guys if you ever notice yourself making mistakes making bad decisions remember you can always quit for the night and start again anew the next day. When you notice yourself making judgement errors its a sign that you are probably fatigued and a good time to stop playing regardless of how you are doing in the session.

Hope u get as lucky as I did in that hand!

Shawn "Lightning" Keller

[Shawn Keller]

lol you're funnier than a pair of clown shoes.

I'm the real deal if you want to see play me headsup 200-400 on UB you'll be the one borrowing money (not from me though I don't lend dudes like you money), I'm catchoftheday whats your screen name I'm guessing its something like "clowntroll" or "Ilikelilboys"

Lightning out

[Shawn Keller]

You guys make me LoL a lot which is good, yes my goal is to confuse people like "professorchaos" in south park. /images/graemlins/wink.gif

Albiet it its a bit confusing Thomas and I are identical twin brother's I posted a more detailed post about this a few minutes ago.

Shawn "Lightning" Keller

[Shawn Keller]

yeah I've played a ton of hours with Dan Druff he knows whats up.

[Shawn Keller]

Thanks for the back up babyjesus, I am the real Shawn Keller, I'm gonna start posting more on this forum been a long time ready but infrequent poster. ( I used to post a bit more before people had set names, sometimes i would post annonymous too.)

Shawn "Lightning" Keller

[pointcount]

quick question.

Why waste a meager 10 BB playing 100/200 or 5 BB @ 200/400 teaching noobs like me how to play for four freaking hours. Seems a vicious waste of your time..

[Izaak_Walton]

I know any two cards can win, so I play every hand all-in. Who needs lessons????

[lorinda]

You'll do better in the WPT forum than here.

If you want to offer us $500 an hour to play you at .5/1 then you're in the right place.

However I think your true intention is to milk the fact that you have been successful for a year whilst people still think you are any good, and the correct place to do that is the WPT forum.

Lori

[AngryCola]

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However I think your true intention is to milk the fact that you have been successful for a year whilst people still think you are any good.

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Bingo.

[Ulysses]

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I called the flop because I thought i had a gutshot (misread the board which is a type of mistake that I make extremely rarely)

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Fair enough.

Serious question. If you are crushing 100-200, 200-400, etc. games, what is your motivation for giving lessons?