Gaming Club new T&C regarding the $300 bonus

[elric]

If it sounds too good to be true it probably is... GC has changed their requirements for clearing bonus. Looks like you can clear $20 at the $0.25/$0.50 limit, $26.66 at the $0.50/$1.00 limit, $34.44 at the $1.00/$2.00 limit. And you will need to play $2/$4 or greater to clear the other $220.

Still a good bonus, but not as good for micro/low limit players as it used to be. I believe everyone who already signed up before the change is grandfathered and can still clear under the old rules.

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Table Bet Limit Bonus Redemption Points Maximum BRPs that can be earned per Bet Limit
$0.25/$0.50 ~ 1 brp/raked hand - 300 max ~ $20
$0.50/$1.00 ~ 3 brp/raked hand - 400 max ~ $26.66
$1.00/$2.00 ~ 3 brp/raked hand - 800 max ~ $34.44
Higher limits 3 brp/raked hand - NO MAX

Please Note: Hands raked on any $0.05/$0.10 and $0.10/$0.20 table and any play on Single or Multi-Table tournaments will not count towards BRPs. Once you have earned the maximum number of BRPs at a particular Bet Limit you can of course continue to play at that Bet Limit but your play will not accumulate any more BRPs for the purposes of this promotion.

[josie_wales]

With the differences in pot sizes and all in the NL games, are there different requirements?

There is a much bigger difference going from a 0.50/1.00 NL table to a $2/$4 NL than there is doing the same in limit.

jw

[Bytestream]

how did they go and change this? unless I missed it, TGC guy didnt mention this yesterday when he signed off for the holidays..

The new limits don't make any sense.. Im just playing devils advocate here because I play over those limits but its a bogus change. A maxed out bonus of $44 for a 1/2 player, forcing them to play a higher limit then they might be ready or comfortable with or lose the rest of the bonus..

What about people who signed up before these newest additions to the T&C...

Im just really suprised TGC Guy didnt make an announcement here about this.....

[Izaak_Walton]

I don't blame Gaming Club Guy for leaving town right now . . . /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Lazymeatball]

This sort of Casino Menatality, changing T&C's without mentioning it to anyone, over the holidays when they think no one will notice is a huge detraction to TGC. I was finally looking forward to signing up there, but was holding out until after the holidays so I could use the full 30 days to work on it. Now it looks like I won't be touching that place with a 10ft pole.

[chesspain]

When I checked my GC account this morning, I saw that I had been credited for the next $20 I earned yesterday evening playing 1/2 6-max, which means I have now earned $220. Unless this change in policy occured in the past few hours, it looks as if preregistered players are grandfathered.

Although it would not be a huge strain on me to play 2/4 for the final $80, I would still be royally pissed if it turns out we are not grandfathered and they changed the rules on us in mid-stream.

[gabyyyyy]

Who is the retard responsible for making these changes at the gaming club?

It seems like one idiotic change after another.

[peacemaker]

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If it sounds too good to be true it probably is... GC has changed their requirements for clearing bonus. Looks like you can clear $20 at the $0.25/$0.50 limit, $26.66 at the $0.50/$1.00 limit, $34.44 at the $1.00/$2.00 limit. And you will need to play $2/$4 or greater to clear the other $220.

Still a good bonus, but not as good for micro/low limit players as it used to be. I believe everyone who already signed up before the change is grandfathered and can still clear under the old rules.

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Table Bet Limit Bonus Redemption Points Maximum BRPs that can be earned per Bet Limit
$0.25/$0.50 ~ 1 brp/raked hand - 300 max ~ $20
$0.50/$1.00 ~ 3 brp/raked hand - 400 max ~ $26.66
$1.00/$2.00 ~ 3 brp/raked hand - 800 max ~ $34.44
Higher limits 3 brp/raked hand - NO MAX



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Your number are a bit off for the $1/2 limit.

800BRP= $73.40 in bonus.

This give $100 in bonus wou can work off at the micro levels. If you don't feel at ease playing at $2/4 then its still $100 in easy bonus money. But you could still use the bonus money on the $2/4 tables and try to earn the rest knowing even if you lose 5BB/100 raked hands you will still break even.

peace

[Bytestream]

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Your number are a bit off for the $1/2 limit.

800BRP= $73.40 in bonus.


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I think this is off too.

300 BRP = $20
600 BRP = $40
900 BRP = $60

800 BRP = $47

[gabyyyyy]

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But you could still use the bonus money on the $2/4 tables and try to earn the rest knowing even if you lose 5BB/100 raked hands you will still break even.



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Or you could just cashout and play at a site that is not managed by amateurs.

[Jstyal]

According to my source, it appears the new policy is not retroactive. Players who signed up before the policy change will continue to earn BRPs under the old policy, which did allow players the chance to clear the entire bonus entirely at the micro limits.

[peacemaker]

Your right I hit the wrong button it's $53.

1 brp= $0.067
so 800*.067=53.30

My statement of $100 at the micro limits was correct though.

[Bytestream]

I assume they have come to some sort of conclusion that this promo is actually losing money at the micro limits. And I would totally understand them having to change the policy to prevent further losses, grandfathering in existing players of course.

What I dont understand is why cap the amount the bonus for those limits instead of just increasing the BRP release for the respective limits?

[Entity]

Hmm.. I was signed up for them, but I don't know if I got signed up before or after the T&C changes. I'll probably just skip them until they get things ironed out, as it seems like they aren't really the most stable operation right now.

Rob

[HavanaBanana]

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According to my source, it appears the new policy is not retroactive. Players who signed up before the policy change will continue to earn BRPs under the old policy, which did allow players the chance to clear the entire bonus entirely at the micro limits.

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This is correct, the changes only affects players who signed up on the 23rd or later.
It is still the best bonus around, and $100 playing low limits and $200 more playing 2-4 fixed limit (or PL or NL)and up is surely not to be scoffed at.

If I was eligible I would do it in a heartbeat.

ToT

[WC64]

Well I just signed up for this today. I am the most comfortable playing 1/2 but I guess I might try and move up to 2/4 to clear the bonus. If I start out bad I guess I can always quit.

[jaybird]

Where can you go to see how man BRPs you have and to see if $20 has been credited to your account?

[kiemo]

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It is still the best bonus around, and $100 playing low limits and $200 more playing 2-4 fixed limit (or PL or NL)and up is surely not to be scoffed at.

If I was eligible I would do it in a heartbeat.


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WOW SHOCKING, you are supporting TGC. Hell TGC could say they are killing everyones pets next weekend and you would proclaim its the best thing in the world.

I kinda figured something would change as the the first change made it was too easy for players to clear the bonus, however this change is not very well thought out.

The best thing TGC could do here is change how many BRPs are accumulated at each level.
For example:
.25/.50 - leave at 1 BRP or lower to .5 BRP
.50/1 - lower to 1 or 2 BRP
1/2 - lower to 2 or leave at 3 BRP
2/4+ - leave at 3 BRP

Under the current change a player will need to play 700 raked hands at the 3 levels to clear the first $100 in bonus money. And if they arent comfortable or have the money for 2/4, too bad about the rest of the bonus, which means they will leave probably cash out. How is this good for TGC?

If they just changed the BRP values, players would accumlate a little slower at lower levels, but still are not shut out of the full bonus and will stay on the site longer. Will the extra rake generated by more hands offset the extra bonus money paid out?

Why would TGC force players to play higher limits in order to clear bonus money? Do the micro players just not generate enough rake to cover the bonus money and if so why not just make the mircos play a few more hands as I outlined above?

Personally I am a comfortable playing at .5/1, however I figured I would give 1/2 a shot at TGC and I havent fared very well as I am barely break even with the bonus money added, so why would I want to move up to 2/4?

TGC has demostrated in the past that it really doesnt have a desire to attract more micro players and this recent change fully supports this perception.

[chesspain]

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Where can you go to see how man BRPs you have and to see if $20 has been credited to your account?

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Click on the box on the bottom, far right of the main screen called "Promotions," and then click on the link on the next screen.

[memphis57]

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It is still the best bonus around, and $100 playing low limits and $200 more playing 2-4 fixed limit (or PL or NL)and up is surely not to be scoffed at.

If I was eligible I would do it in a heartbeat.

ToT

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How is this the best bonus around? It's like 1/10th as good as the regular Party reload bonuses - either that or TGC screwed up my account, which is just as bad. I signed up for this a few weeks ago and played at least 8 hrs (probably more) of .50/1. When my BRPs showed up, like 2 days later, first it said 227 which was bad enough but then next day it went DOWN to 89 - 89 BRPs for 8 hours of single table play, or about $6 worth. I cleared my last Party bonus in 12 hours single table and got $100, so 8 hours at Party was worth $67. (If someone at TGC wants to check my records to see if you screwed them up, I'm acct #pgc05663629r.)

I also lost about $100 - playing mostly daytime and wee hours, which is my schedule. During these times the "% seeing flop" on the .50/1 tables was usually high 30s/low 40s. At least 3 of the 10 players on every table appear to be prop players - or at least the same names were there everyday and they were playing 4-6 tables each. Now to be fair, some weeknights and Saturdays there were more outside players and flop rates got up into the 50-60s sometimes, but I can't always play at those times.

I gave up on trying to get the bonus, and don't plan on ever playing there again.

[gabyyyyy]

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WOW SHOCKING, you are supporting TGC. Hell TGC could say they are killing everyones pets next weekend and you would proclaim its the best thing in the world.


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I think the gaming club sent havana to a live tourney.

Ever since then he is been their little bitch.

[bonanz]

wow that is mega lame.

i would go out of town too after everyone started kissing my ass about the positive changes then return to a shitty bonus structure.

i was gonna sign up but now i don't think will because this is all shady

[elric]

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TGC has demostrated in the past that it really doesnt have a desire to attract more micro players and this recent change fully supports this perception.

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I too am confused as this would be like Vegas removing all the slots that are less than a $1. My guess is that those hoardes of quarter players helped to build a huge chunk of Las Vegas.

In poker the bigger limit players frequently come from the lower limit players moving up.

I agree 100% with kiemo on this one, just lower the rate at which BRP are earned instead of excluding the lower limit players from the rest of the bonus money.

Maybe GC is worried about the high cost it has to pay their dealers. Or could it be that rent on the poker room. If it was me I would rather have 20 full tables of micro limit players instead of one full table of pros playing $100 / $200.

Throw more chum in the aquarium and the sharks will play here regardless of the bonus. Better bonus = more players. More players = more fish to munch on in the tank.

Limiting bonus will not bring us more players. I envision it will bring us less. GC two thumbs way down. Viva la Party!

My .02

BTW Sorry about my $1/$2 calculation after reviewing it I have no idea how I came up with that funky number.

[phuc]

I just signed up for this on 12/23 while they were changing the terms!! This is horrible. I am comfortable playing 2/4, but the site seems to have so little traffic. The entire time I played, only one 2/4 10-handed table was going. 1/2 is just as bad. but there are tons of 0.50/1.00 and 0.25/0.50 tables going. I might give up on the rest of the bonus, except the site truly has fish. It's been pretty good so far, but then again, I've only played there for two days.

[HavanaBanana]

As an error on when your points started to count made you start at 219 point, together with the 89 points you earned later it made 308 points which entitled you to $20.

$20 has been added to your account.

The Gaming Club have since that time changed the way they view a raked hand (before you had to contribute to a raked pot where rake was 25c or more, now you only need to be dealt cards in a raked hand of 25c or more in the 25c-50c games and upwards.) and you now get 3 BRP's for every hand in the 50c-$1.00 (and up)games compared to 1 BRP per game before.

This means that you will clear the bonus between 3 and 6 times faster than before depending on how often you were contributing to a the pot before.

(If you were in every hand before, the 3 times is because of the BRP points now has tripled for that limit)
And if you contributed to half of the raked pots before you can double that up now as every hand that is Raked 25c or more is counted now.

Gaming Club Guy is celebrating Christmas or he would promptly have answered you himself.

Feel free to ask any other questions you might have, or call the Gaming Club Poker Agents at :
United States 1 800 824 2458
United Kingdom 800 917 3471
Canada 1 800 262 9107

Merry Christmas /images/graemlins/smile.gif

ToT

[cjs]

This bonus is very easy to clear. Learn to play shorthanded and it will clear very fast. Otherwise fulltables are less availabe but still profitable. You will not find many bonuses that clear this quick.

[memphis57]

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As an error on when your points started to count made you start at 219 point, together with the 89 points you earned later it made 308 points which entitled you to $20.

$20 has been added to your account.

ToT

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Thanks for your help on that, HavanaBanana.

[aLOWdAkING]

How can you find out if you have reached the maximum amount of BRP's for each limit?

[kiemo]

Maybe TGC is back in the office today