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partygirluk
12-23-2004, 08:04 PM
Which of these would be the biggest disadvantage?

lastchance
12-23-2004, 08:07 PM
Burglary is a felony, isn't it? I don't think felons can run for US President.

partygirluk
12-23-2004, 08:09 PM
President Clinton pardoned me.

Vince Young
12-23-2004, 11:35 PM
1. Gay
2. Muslim
3. Black
4. Woman

lastchance
12-24-2004, 12:36 AM
Gay, Muslim, convict. Those, IMHO, are the top 3 by far.

zaxx19
12-24-2004, 06:56 AM
Isnt there a law against those under 45 running???

I am assuming the "Muslim" answers are coming from Europeans or just ultral liberals...in fact I find it amazing at the restraint displayed by Americans after 9-11 in regards to incidents directed against Muslims.

P.S. Ralph Nader, is he a Muslim?? He is certainly an Arab-American didnt here it become an issue EVER and I mean NEVER EVER.

The simple fact is that Muslims in the U.S. are more educated, richer, freer, and more tolerated as a minority THAN ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE WORLD. THIS INCLUDES CANADA-THEY ARE SIGNIFICANTLY MORE PROSPEROUS HERE IN THE U.S. Than under the Socialist yolk there.

lastchance
12-24-2004, 07:15 AM
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Isnt there a law against those under 45 running???


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35. And I remind people that it this is the person who believes that Germany and it's citizens should have been shipped off to Siberia.

zaxx19
12-24-2004, 07:23 AM
Oh after WW2??? ABSOLUTELY......ABSOLUTELY WITHOUT A 2ND THOUGHT.

Remember the U.S. nuked Japan......thats also fairly harsh.

lastchance
12-24-2004, 07:32 AM
Not getting into this now, but I am just stating that you would have a hard time finding someone guilty of a vengeance killing.

zaxx19
12-24-2004, 07:48 AM
First off half the liberals in here probably have "Free Mumia" posters next to Mao on their walls.....so lets not pretend like the law isnt selectively enforcible.( btw my "FRY MUMIAS BLACK ASS" Tshirt came out nicely from the local tshirt shop/

On revenge murders...

Uhm, if one man raped and murdered another mans daughter, sister, mother and wife in front of him, and then was killed by that 2nd man......no I wouldnt convict the 2nd man of murder..and if i had to I would recommend a suspended sentence. In some ways the German actions were even worse(perhaps i should say more diabolical) than this.

This is tantamount to resisting orders/laws deemed immoral like the Canadian general who was ordered to leave Rwanda by Ghali(those arabs really dont care much for black lives do they)but told him to go to hell.......Or more aptly the prison guard who "doesnt hear" the cries of a child molester being beaten to death in general population.

For you liberals out there imagine a nice blonde task master beating a slave to death in the antebellum south. Now imagine him beating his brother...now imagine the brother hits him with a rock, then proceeds to hit him again on the ground until whitey is dead. This is the point in the movie were yu guys clap... correct......

Of course NONE OF THIS IS RELEVANT BECAUSE NATIONS ARE NOT INDIVIDUAL CITIZENS OF THE U.S. but nice try.

Cyrus
12-24-2004, 08:04 AM
Just curious. I have the O/U at 24.

Warm?

lastchance
12-24-2004, 08:06 AM
Ok...

Let's get back to the original point.

You stated that "I am assuming the "Muslim" answers are coming from Europeans or just ultral liberals...in fact I find it amazing at the restraint displayed by Americans after 9-11 in regards to incidents directed against Muslims."

I am stating that your that the way you particularly view the world and your opinions on these matters is that you half-expect the KKK to reborn, except anti-Muslim this time around.

There is a huge difference between not wanting to vote for someone as President due to prejudice and acting out against them with violence.

With MMMMMMM stating that he would not want to vote for a foreigner not of this country due to security reasons and a reluctance to bomb his/her own country, I do not think that many people would want someone they perceive to possibly be the enemy in office.

Oh, and considering that key role that "moral values" is playing, a gay person has no chance of being President.

partygirluk
12-24-2004, 12:13 PM
Why do you always deride anyone who disagrees with you as being either (perish the thought!) "European" or (Surely not!) "Liberal"?

elwoodblues
12-24-2004, 03:12 PM
The chances of a high school dropout winning are precisely 0. All of the others have at least some chance.

JoeC
12-24-2004, 06:48 PM
I answered "convict" and "dropout".

I really don't see us having a Muslim or gay president any time soon, but to me this at least seems on the fringe of conceivability. Ex-convict as president? It just seems like they would be entirely unelectable.

bholdr
12-24-2004, 08:45 PM
i'll take under and lay 2-1

when do we stop listening and responding to this guy? i am constanly horrified and shocked by his bloodthirsty opinions, and take them as a reminder of how far we have to go to become a just society. perhaps if he pays attention to the more moderate conservatives on this forun (like dr wogga) he will learn something.


zaxx, i showed my freind from the JDL a couple of your posts and he thinks you are "as bad as the nazis". his words, not mine, i don't think you're quite that bad.



oh and just to keep on topic:
obese: we've had several
woman: look out 2008 (and not just for hillary)
ex-pot smoker: bush did coke clinton didn't inhale jfk made rush limbaugh look like a painkiller pouser.
illigetimate kid : i'd bet that there are a few more JFK juniors running around.
Black: colin powell could've been prez already
over 70: regan
under forty: bobby kennedy was pretty close wasn't he?
a convicted burglar: DWI? "youthfull indescretions"
poker player: i think i read somewhere that truman was very good.
french speaker: i beleive many presidents have spoken french.
A nobel prize winner: i'd think this would genrally be an advantage
had an abortion: wouldn't hurt a dem a bit. maybe a little.
Catholic: JFK

on the other hand:

a high school dropout: would never get the chance to get anywhere close.
muslim: twenty years, to even have a chance. probably never.
very ugly: depends. bill mahar ugly? no prob there are lots of ugly politicians. disfigured ugly? probably not.
only 1.4 meters tall: keep dreamin' kid.


CND: i'm having a brain fart. what is this. sry.

partygirluk
12-24-2004, 11:54 PM
CAmpaign for Nuclear Disarmament.

partygirluk
12-25-2004, 01:10 AM
I'll take under.

lastchance
12-25-2004, 01:27 AM
Ditto.

RyGreen18
12-26-2004, 01:48 AM
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Remember the U.S. nuked Japan......thats also fairly harsh.

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hiroshima was the root of the anti-american sentiment worldwide

zaxx19
12-26-2004, 06:15 AM
UH....OK.....probably not in China were the Japanese are reviled and hated with a passion. Of course the Chinese will soon join us as "Co-Superpowers", -- YESSSSSS!!!

wHERE EXACTLY DID hIROSHIMA START ANTI-aMERICANISM??

In 1945 was there alot of "Anti-Americanism" outside the Soviet Bloc???

Does your post mean anything??

spamuell
12-26-2004, 06:40 PM
Just curious. I have the O/U at 24.

This is the most ridiculous post you have ever made.

I would be very surprised if he was older than 17.

partygirluk
12-26-2004, 07:31 PM
I initially would have guessed 14, but a couple of things point me the other way.

i) His propaganda is generally very well rehearsed. He has clearly read a lot.
ii) He plays online poker. It is clear that he is the type of kid that would be very close to his family, and I can't imagine Jewish parents allowing a 14 yr old to play.
iii) I suspect "Zaxx19" contains a clue to his age.

spamuell
12-26-2004, 08:14 PM
I can't imagine Jewish parents allowing a 14 yr old to play

I certainly can, and they could easily just not know about it. Most of my friends were playing at less than 18, although not 14. He might have a brother or something though.

That's just academic though because, lol:

iii) I suspect "Zaxx19" contains a clue to his age.

Yes, I suspect so.

partygirluk
12-26-2004, 09:16 PM
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I can't imagine Jewish parents allowing a 14 yr old to play

I certainly can, and they could easily just not know about it. Most of my friends were playing at less than 18, although not 14. He might have a brother or something though.


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When I bet £2 on football (aged 18) my mum accused me of having a gambling problem. When I crack a beer (once every 3 months) my mum accuses me of being an alcoholic.

Hack
12-27-2004, 08:53 AM
Being Jewish is the biggest handicap, in my opinion.

I think you're more likely to see an African-American elected to the office of president before a Jewish person.

Being gay is also a big handicap.

So being gay and being Jewish are the two biggest ones I guess.

Hack
12-27-2004, 08:56 AM
I believe you when you say that zaxx said that.

Zaxx is a big believer in collective guilt when it comes to foreign policy, but not for domestic matters. He blames all of Germany for the Holocaust. Yet, if you ask him about reparations or affirmative action for African-Americans, I bet he would say that that is unfair. /images/graemlins/smile.gif


Zaxx also ignores the fact that some Germans helped Jews escape out of Germany or and some Germans even hid Jews in their houses for the duration of the war.

spamuell
12-28-2004, 10:24 AM
Being Jewish is the biggest handicap, in my opinion.

I think you're more likely to see an African-American elected to the office of president before a Jewish person.


Why do you think this? There are lots of significant political figures who are Jewish, what is so different about presidency?

barongreenback
12-28-2004, 10:38 AM
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The chances of a high school dropout winning are precisely 0. All of the others have at least some chance.

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I was thinking this might be an asset. Being educated or intelligent or capable of original thought seem to be the things best downplayed.

zaxx19
12-28-2004, 10:56 AM
I really dont think you bother reading the actual content of my posts. Rather I think you read a line or 2 look at my avatar and draw your own conclusions.


He blames all of Germany for the Holocaust

I dont even remember us EVER EVEN DISCUSSING THIS.



Zaxx also ignores the fact that some Germans helped Jews escape out of Germany or and some Germans even hid Jews in their houses for the duration of the war.

I do??? Never said that no Germans aided Jews in the holocaust...

P.S.
It IS kind of sickening how few did then. If you want I could quote Goldhagen about 150X here to show how pathetic resistance tot he holocaust inside Germany actually was.

elwoodblues
12-28-2004, 10:58 AM
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He blames all of Germany for the Holocaust

I dont us EVER EVEN DISCUSSING THIS.

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Are you drunk already? It's before noon, have some dignity.

zaxx19
12-28-2004, 11:04 AM
We discussed "blame" for the holocaust???

Id like to see where I commented on blame??

I certainly commented on punitive actions taken by Soviet troops but if you read my responses....well it looks like you didnt.

elwoodblues
12-28-2004, 11:20 AM
The key phrase in the post to which I replied is this one:
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Edited by zaxx19 (12/28/04 09:59 AM)

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precisely 1 minute after my reply.

I think part of the problem is that you choose to hit the "reply" button to a post to which you aren't actually replying. Read the thread in "threaded" mode and I suspect you will see, in part, why your post makes you look like a drunkard.

Hack
12-28-2004, 05:03 PM
There are a lot of significant political figures who have other characteristics mentioned above as well.

I think that having Lieberman on the ticket helped cost Gore the election. There are a fair amount of people in America, maybe 10%, who won't vote for a Jew for president or vice-president. The Jews elected to the house and senate typically come from states that have large Jewish populations(California, New York, Florida, etc.), or from states that are generally considered more liberal than the population at large.