who shows first??

[mike3076]

i know that in a live game ,when it is checked around on the river,everyone likes to wait to show,to try to see someone elses hand first,BUT DOES ANY ONE KNOW WHO IS SUPPOSED TO SHOW FIRST??(WHEN A BET IS CALLED ,THE BETTOR MUST HOW FIRST,SO WHEN IT IS CHECKED AROUND,WHO SHOWS FIRST?

[CptMisery]

Mike,

When the bet is checked around on the river the first person to act to the left of the dealer button should show their hand. The remaining players to act once the cards are revealed then have the opportunity to show their hand in order or muck their hand.

Once again, try a different forum for this post like B&M Cardrooms, or Beginners.

[itsmarty]

The first person to realize you're not at the final table of the WSOP should break the stalemate, and begin politely encouraging the rest of the table to stop being such annoying nits.

Martin

[DavidC]

Everyone's supposed to show.

At some casino's, the person who made the last aggressive action shows first, following to their left around the table.

Also, there's no such thing as true rules or whatever, it's just whatever the house rules are where you're playing.

If the rules are different than what you're used to, adjust to them. /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[DavidC]

Whatever the worst player at the table wants, if he's in the hand. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

That's a good rule, too. Once you've seen enough of his hands, you don't need to see any more until he starts playing differently.

[afish]

As someone else noted, you should post this question in a different forum.

The answer depends on the house rules. For example, at the Taj, the player to the left of the dealer button must show first, and it then rotates clockwise around the table. At the Borgata, the last person to initiate betting on a prior round shows first, and it then rotates clockwise around the table.

That said, if you think you have a winner, it is generally proper etiquette to show first.

[maryfield48]

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The first person to realize you're not at the final table of the WSOP should break the stalemate, and begin politely encouraging the rest of the table to stop being such annoying nits.

Martin

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Ding ding ding!!! Good answer.

[Patrick del Poker Grande]

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The first person to realize you're not at the final table of the WSOP should break the stalemate, and begin politely encouraging the rest of the table to stop being such annoying nits.

Martin

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Ding ding ding!!! Good answer.

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Yes. Also, I find it even more irritating when the nit waits and waits, sees that he's beaten, then shows his losing cards anyway. What the hell were you waiting for if you were just going to show your cards either way?

[Photoc]

Those are the same idiots that sit on a 4/8 game and check call their last $3 on the river to the guy betting and raising the whole way. Why the hell not just put the 3 bucks in, you might get the guy to fold!

[AdamL]

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If the rules are different than what you're used to, adjust to them. /images/graemlins/wink.gif

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That's some damn fine advice. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[DavidC]

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That's some damn fine advice.

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Only wish I could follow it. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[JasonEngland]

CptMisery,

I realize there is no single set of rules for the game of poker, but I have a related question to the one of "who shows first."

When a player mucks his hand after being shown a better hand in the showdown, do other players at the table have a right to see what those cards were? Again, since no precise rules exist, answer however you see fit.

It seems to me that a player that mucks his losing hand after being shown a winner is purposefully concealing information that would prove valuable to players trying to get analyse their play.

In my opinion, whatever the rule is, it should be: At the showdown, roll your hand when asked/told to do so by the dealer or leave the game.

Jason

[itsmarty]

The rule was put in place to give players a tool for fighting collusion, and using it to gain information has long been held an "angle shot".

With the explosion of players from the internet, where you can either see the hands or not based on arbitrary settings on the site, it's no longer an angle shot for the most part, but an innocent misunderstanding.

That doesn't change the fact that people should learn why the rule is in place and when to properly apply it, however. Asking to see mucked hands for information has the affect of tightening up the table (both by embarrassing people when they make a bad play and by generally pissing them off) and slowing down play.

You shouldn't do it, and you should politely encourage others to refrain as well.

Martin

[JonPKibble]

This is definitely an interesting topic. On PartyPoker, for instance, you can view the hand history to see other hands that were at showdown, even if they were mucked. On many other sites you can't see mucked hands. So yes this does depend on the venue. The best you can do is check with the operator of the venue you play at to find out what their rule is. If it is a home game generally the players will all agree on a good rule. Thankfully this has never come up at any home game I've played in (yet!)