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SamIAm
12-22-2004, 12:04 PM
Twice tonight I had a paired board and a pair of my own, and wasn't sure how to play. One of them I think I played too aggressively and then lost to trips, where as the other one I folded to aggression and would have won. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

::First hand::

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, UTG+2 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 7/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG+2 calls, MP3 calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.25 BB) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises</font>, MP3 folds, Hero folds, BB calls.

River: (10.25 BB) 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG+2 calls. BB and UTG+2 both show a 7. Hero kicks himself.

::Second hand::

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (3 SB) K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 8/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (6.50 BB) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls and kicks himself again.

Final Pot: 8.50 BB

Now, in the first hand, I wasn't gonna call two cold, so I guess I'd do it again. On the second hand, should I have given up or called to the river?

I realize the first hand I could beat any non-trips, since my pair was higher than the 7, but on the second hand I could also beat anybody but trips, since I had the kicker.

Thanks for any comments.
-Sam

Nick C
12-22-2004, 08:01 PM
Hand 1: The turn fold seems sensible to me. It looks a lot like UTG+2 flopped trips and waited until the turn to raise.

Hand 2: Overpairs to your nine aren't too likely, so mostly you have to worry about trip kings.

After SB 3-bets the flop, I think calling down is okay.