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adamstewart
12-21-2004, 04:46 PM
With the way things have been going for me lately, I'm beginning to question everything.

Is this the "standard" line?:


Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif. UTG+1 posts a blind of $2.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 (poster) checks, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (5.50 SB) 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 6/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (3.75 BB) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 4.75 BB

TheManInBlack
12-21-2004, 04:58 PM
No way! He showed no strength on the flop. He is most likely on a small straight draw. Make him pay for it by re-raising the turn. You have 6 outs (7:1). Even if he hit a pair of 3's, you can still scare him into a fold on the river with an aggressive bet.

mistrpug
12-21-2004, 05:02 PM
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With the way things have been going for me lately, I'm beginning to question everything.

Is this the "standard" line?:


Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif. UTG+1 posts a blind of $2.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 (poster) checks, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (5.50 SB) 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 6/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (3.75 BB) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 4.75 BB

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1. A read here would be very nice.
2. Pot is tiny. Good fold.

Lost Wages
12-21-2004, 05:03 PM
Standard. Look at the pot size. If you are behind you are getting less than 5:1 to draw to a six outer that may or may not be good. If you think there is a chance you have the best hand then you are getting less than 3:1 to call down. Do you think that you hand is going to be good &gt;1/3 of the time? It sucks, I know, after all he could be bluffing, but you have to fold.

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Derek in NYC
12-21-2004, 05:07 PM
Yawn. Std. play.

27offsooot
12-21-2004, 05:10 PM
Adam,
Pretty easy fold. I can't imagine u being ahead here with the amount of aggression u've shown and the villain leading the turn. He did post and may have called your raise with any 2 suited. You may have odds to draw out if u have 6 clean outs. But u may already be drawing dead. In a small pot, this is a clear fold.
To the man in black,
A raise here is awful.

MRBAA
12-21-2004, 06:07 PM
You are getting 3.5-1 to draw to a six outer, with implied odds of maybe one more bb if you hit. You need about 7-1, so it's an easy fold without even considering the fact that a pair of aces or kings may not even be good if you hit it. It's good that you're posting this, because if you're really unsure at all about this play or situation, you need to do alot more work on your game.

adamstewart
12-21-2004, 06:57 PM
Trivial, I know.

But as I said... I don't seem to "have it" lately. So I'm questioning everything I do.... right down to what I consider "the basics."

Thanks for the thoughtful encouragement.

Adam