Raised on turn after bad card hits w/ an OK hand.

[cmwck]

Read on button is a loose player (36%) and passive (0.76) after about 30 hands.

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Preflop: Hero is MP3 with T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, Hero calls, CO folds, Button calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Anybody raise pre-flop here?


Flop: (6 SB) 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls.

Standard bet out.

Turn: (5 BB) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, BB folds, MP1 folds, Hero ...?

This card completes a flush, two-pair, and two straights. I'm behind virtually every hand that a straightforward passive player would raise here. My best outs are the 3 tens to make a better two-pair. I'm certain the aces do me no good. I could also have zero outs if he has a straight or flush.

Can we safely fold here?

[Peter Harris]

with reads? i reckon so. Although it's very close. If the pot was a bit bigger i'd say so, but paying 2BB more for a 7BB pot seems silly here.

[Cardzy]

No I don't raise preflop, actually I fold preflop. Unsuited AT is not a good hand multi-way. Since I already have 2 limpers in front of me and a fish behind me (you said button was loose/passive, therefore most likely will call even a raise) I prefer not to even be in this pot myself. But hey, I'm a tight bastard.