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lucas9000
12-20-2004, 08:49 PM
party $10+1 sng. blinds are 15/30, 7 players left. no strong reads yet. i am the button with T755

utg (T885) limps
utg+1 folds
mp (T1055) min-raises to 60
co folds
i am dealt K /images/graemlins/spade.gif K /images/graemlins/club.gif and i make it 125.

sb folds
bb (T1265) calls
utg folds
mp calls

3 to the flop...flop comes K /images/graemlins/heart.gif 4 /images/graemlins/heart.gif 8 /images/graemlins/heart.gif

bb bets 50, mp calls
i go all-in

your thoughts? my reasoning to follow...

soko
12-20-2004, 08:55 PM
Well you're drawing to 6 outs for a full house, these situations reads are very important... Will he call your all in with a single heart? a push is a serious move here, a raise would probally be smarter, if you are just called most likely a single heart, reraised and you need to worry. That is how I feel looking at it now, in the same situation I wouldn't have been surprised if I pushed as well.

syka16
12-20-2004, 08:55 PM
you're pretty safe. You're preflop raise is to cut out suited connectors and you don't have enough callers to really worry about a made made flush. You'll get paid off enough times by Axs to make it +EV

lucas9000
12-20-2004, 09:03 PM
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a raise would probally be smarter, if you are just called most likely a single heart, reraised and you need to worry.

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i had about 630 chips left. any raise i put in on the flop basically commits me. i simply don't have enough chips, imo, to "play poker" on that flop. it's either push or fold...although i could be wrong of course.

adanthar
12-20-2004, 09:22 PM
Mooooooooooooooooooooo.

captZEEbo1
12-20-2004, 10:36 PM
Yeah push, you're pretty far ahead of A/images/graemlins/heart.gif (71:29) and only a 2:1 dog against a made flush (not great, but not terrible either). You can't really get away from this hand. I might've raised more preflop though.

bigredlemon
12-20-2004, 10:52 PM
***** Hand History for Game 1327438718 *****
10+1

Blinds: 50/100
Seat 3 is the button

Seat 3: xxx ( $3012 ) BUTTON
Seat 5: VILLAN ( $1772 )
Seat 10: xxx ( $538 )
Seat 8: HERO ( $1275 )
Seat 7: xxx ( $1403 )


Dealt to HERO [ Jc Jd ]

HERO raises [250].
bjschaef folds.
jeffrecl folds.
incantar raises [450].
ParkerK folds.
HERO is all-In.
incantar calls [775].

** Dealing Flop **

lucas9000
12-20-2004, 11:40 PM
[ QUOTE ]
***** Hand History for Game 1327438718 *****
10+1

Blinds: 50/100
Seat 3 is the button

Seat 3: xxx ( $3012 ) BUTTON
Seat 5: VILLAN ( $1772 )
Seat 10: xxx ( $538 )
Seat 8: HERO ( $1275 )
Seat 7: xxx ( $1403 )


Dealt to HERO [ Jc Jd ]

HERO raises [250].
bjschaef folds.
jeffrecl folds.
incantar raises [450].
ParkerK folds.
HERO is all-In.
incantar calls [775].

** Dealing Flop **

[/ QUOTE ]

huh?

Sidekick
12-21-2004, 12:42 AM
IMO this is a push situation. If I'm figuring things correctly you have a better chance of hitting your full house or better by the river than a single heart has of making his flush.

If you don't make your full house or better on the turn then you have 10 outs on the river to beat the flush.

It is not a great situation to be in, but it isn't terrible either. For me this is one of those situations where you just have to push and live with the results, whether they are good or bad. I don't like calling here at all, and folding this hand just seems wrong! Like you said, you don't really have a deep enough chip stack to make a reasonable raise that doesn't commit you to the pot, so might as well push.