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brettbrettr
12-19-2004, 08:35 PM
Over 65 hands, UTG is 57 (VPIP) and 23 (PFR), SB is 56/26..



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Preflop: Hero is BB with Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP 3-bets</font>, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, UTG calls, MP calls.

Flop: (12.50 SB) 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 6/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG 3-bets</font>, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, UTG calls, MP calls.

Turn: (12.25 BB) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, MP calls, Hero calls.

River: (18.25 BB) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, MP calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 21.25 BB
phy1234
12-19-2004, 10:05 PM
seems good, unless he will go crazy with TP or JJ

Phy1234
felson
12-19-2004, 10:07 PM
Preflop: standard.

Flop: I would bet out here, because I would hate to see the flop get checked through. Once you get three-bet, though, you can just call down. Capping is not terrible though. If the hand were heads up I would lean towards calling down rather than the cap. As it is, at least you have the other player paying you off in case your hand is good.

Turn: when you get popped again, definitely call down.
Freakin
12-20-2004, 04:44 AM
It seems criminal to attempt to c/r that flop when you capped preflop.
daryn
12-20-2004, 05:16 AM
i also would bet out here, but i definitely wouldn't slow down to opponent's flop 3-bet.
naphand
12-20-2004, 05:23 AM
These are LAGs. They hate to be raised, there is no way the flop is getting checked through. A CR almost guarantees Hero can cap with the best hand. No way do you slow down after a 3-bet against players like this with this hand. A Turn CR seems a possibility too, calling down after the Turn raise is OK, or after your CR gets 3-bet. Check-calling from the Turn would be ultimately weak.
RamGad
12-20-2004, 08:39 AM
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Over 65 hands, UTG is 57 (VPIP) and 23 (PFR), SB is 56/26..


Is this saying that their PRR is 23 and 26? HOLY [censored]. Never seen it that high before. Is this common on 1-2 and are PFR numbers this high common on 10-20 too?
naphand
12-20-2004, 01:50 PM
I see this on a regular basis, and sometimes V$IP 70% PFR 43% or suchlike.

Of course, we have no idea how meaningful the PT stats are in this hand, as Hero has not identified the number of hands involved in this PT "read".
bblock99
12-20-2004, 02:53 PM
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Of course, we have no idea how meaningful the PT stats are in this hand, as Hero has not identified the number of hands involved in this PT "read".

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Over <font color="red"> 65 hands <font color="black">, UTG is 57 (VPIP) and 23 (PFR), SB is 56/26..



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naphand
12-20-2004, 06:03 PM
Whoops, now you know how reliable my reads are... /images/graemlins/wink.gif

How did I miss that? But far too few hands to make the numbers mean anything, all you can say is that they appear LAG. Far more useful to characterise such thing as raising any suited broadway, or any suited A, or AAAP, or any pair etc. as the strategy becomes very different. Too much stats and you interpretations become bland. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing.
SmileyEH
12-20-2004, 08:14 PM
I have players on my 5/10 buddy list with 90/30+ numbers.

-SmileyEH