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Gravy (Gravy Smoothie)
12-16-2004, 09:54 PM
Getting 7:1 closing the action, second pair, J and 7 outs most likely clean, and backdoor to a half-decent flush.

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is MP with J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif. Hero posts a blind of $1.
CO folds, Button calls, SB completes, BB calls, UTG calls, Hero (poster) checks.

Flop: (5 SB) 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, SB folds, BB calls, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, BB folds, UTG calls, Hero calls.

River: (7.50 BB) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button folds, UTG folds.

Final Pot: 8.50 BB

JrJordan
12-16-2004, 10:06 PM
Your 2 pair/trip outs all look to be good, so there's 5 outs. I don't know how much value I'd give to your gutshot flush draw because you could easily be up against a higher out. Even so, with 5 outs you're getting around 4:1 to hit over two streets, so it seems like a straightforward call.

daryn
12-17-2004, 02:36 AM
you probably shouldn't post in MP.

Danenania
12-17-2004, 02:43 AM
Easy call. Include the decent chance you hold the best hand in your calculations.

Gravy (Gravy Smoothie)
12-17-2004, 09:59 AM
I was in the big blind, the converter screwed all the action up.

Benman
12-17-2004, 12:04 PM
Am I the only person who would have bet this flop? Check calling is weak.

kiddo
12-17-2004, 12:13 PM
Yes, I would bet this 100%, no need to think that anyone hit toppair and there are 3353535252 overcards and flushcards and straightcards killing your hand.

If SB bet this flop I would raise from BB, u want the other ones out.

Checkcalling this hand is not good because it will be almost impossible to play on the turn if turncard is any of the 3535353 scary ones. Where are u now? Should u checkcall again? Checkfold? Bet?