Is this an obvious fold?

[jacks321]

This is UTG+1's first hand at the table, so no reads. UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, Hero raises to 800 with AsKh. Everyone folds to UTG+1 who calls. Flop comes 7d, Qh, 6c. Utg+1 is all in for around 2000 chips. (this would have put me all in). Hero folds. This would have been a bad call, right?

[Cleveland Guy]

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This is UTG+1's first hand at the table, so no reads. UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, Hero raises to 800 with AsKh. Everyone folds to UTG+1 who calls. Flop comes 7d, Qh, 6c. Utg+1 is all in for around 2000 chips. (this would have put me all in). Hero folds. This would have been a bad call, right?

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Well There is a lot of info missing.

First off - what are the blind levels?

2nd - what was your exact chip count?

3rd - why are you raising roughly 1/3 of your stack here?

You might be pot committed depending on how much you have.

I would say this is most likely a fold though.

If he is on a bluff - good bluff by him. Even if it's AJ or AT. If he has Ax and hit his x you have 3 outs. If he had Q high - you have 6 outs.

Even if he has 8-9, then he still have 14 outs 2 times over.

Definate fold, but it looks more like you butchered this pre-flop. Please let us know chip stacks and blinds/antes.

One final thought is where you were in the tournament?

If you are just in the money- and it's 20 places until you move up again - might be worth it to "Gambool" as you would be really short stacked with a fold.

[jacks321]

I'm sorry, you're right there was a lot of info missing. Blinds are at 100/200. My exact chip count is 2665. It was still fairly early in the tournament. I raised 4x the BB. I would say I'm definitely not pot-committed at this point. Are you saying i should have raised more preflop to try to pick him off right there?

edit: If I wasn't clear before, utg+1's bet was 2000 to me to call.

[SossMan]

You should have raised less if you were going to fold to a flop all in when you whiffed.

that being said, i would fold there.

[Cleveland Guy]

I would have either raised 2.5xbb to 500. Or I would push all in. The 4xbb is just too much of your stack.

[schwza]

i'd push. you're not going to be able to make a raise and both have a chance to fold out villain and be able to play comfortably on the flop. it'll be much easier if you're all-in. there's 500 chips out there and you only have 2600, so picking up that pot without having to see a flop would be a good result for you.

[zaxx19]

So is an AK a normal push for you guys in situations like this?? Meaning preflop?

[SossMan]

this is one of the few places where I don't mind a minraise preflop.

[schwza]

yeah, i meant push pre-flop. sklanksy says in TPFAP that pushing AK pre-flop is often right when your stack is 2-5 times current pot.

[Cleveland Guy]

Table and player dependant. I am not a big fan of raising hands 40-50% of my stack. If it's that big I'd push. I do think a raise to 500 here would have been enough instead of the 800

[Myst]

Id either raise to 475 or push. Either are viable.
And yes, folding is mandatory. You have Ace high.

[burningyen]

Good fold.