The Zoo Post of the Year

[Beer and Pizza]

What is the Post of the Year for 2004 here in the Zoo? Why?

What is the Thread of the Year for 2004 here in the Zoo? Why?

Who is the Poster of the Year for 2004 here in the Zoo? Why?

Who is the Troll of the Year for 2004 here in the Zoo? Why?



(inspired by Men the Master, who posted a similar thread in 6 other forums)

[El Barto]

Post of the Year - Empire Threatens to Freeze my Account (for sheer stupidity)

Thread of the Year - Building bankroll by Homer

Poster of the Year - thomastem (for the whole theatrical situation he created)

Troll of the Year - Gregorio (for being so hated, and yet still not banned)

[Sarge85]

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What is the Post of the Year for 2004 here in the Zoo? Why?

What is the Thread of the Year for 2004 here in the Zoo? Why?

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I've never seen such a flurry of activity and smack talking as much as I did after the Empire offers $500 reload.

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Who is the Poster of the Year for 2004 here in the Zoo? Why?

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Toss up between Homer/MS Sunshine/Lorinda

They all contribute solid knowledge and generally stay away from the drivel.

Who is the Troll of the Year for 2004 here in the Zoo?

Why reward them with the attention they desire?

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[ArchAngel71857]

Circle jerk time in the Zoo, too?

-AA

[sthief09]

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[sthief09]

hey Sarge, do you go to UTK? If so, do you know who Heath Benedict is?

[morgant]

can someone point me to some classic gregorio? i have no idea who this is, or the thomastem drama, i usually tune that out.

dont forget Ryan21
and the other Ryan something or other.

[Sarge85]

No-

I don't go to UT - never did truth be told, just a fan of the teams there.

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[tyfromm]

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can someone point me to some classic gregorio?

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I think his very existence is just in people's imagination, unless they refer to that guy named Gregorio who was in the WSOP this year.

[Pokeraddict]

Who can forget the pattern map thread? I think it is gone now.

[SamJack]

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What is the Post of the Year for 2004 here in the Zoo? Why?

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Post of the year is clearly the FAQ.

SamJack

[AncientPC]

What is the Post of the Year for 2004 here in the Zoo? Why?

FAQ, it was needed.

What is the Thread of the Year for 2004 here in the Zoo? Why?

Empire 500 reload (all 200 of them).

Who is the Poster of the Year for 2004 here in the Zoo? Why?

Homer / MSSunshine / Lorinda

Who is the Troll of the Year for 2004 here in the Zoo? Why?

Gabbyyyyy, always.

[Jim Kuhn]

Post of the Year - Lorinda's FAQ

Thread of the Year - Building bankroll by Homer

Poster of the Year - Microbob - he is always very helpful and answers in great detail. Others are also very helpful - Lorinda, Homer, Granny, Simon for KOTZ website, Ed/Mike Haven for KOTZ tourney work, Cubswin, etc.

Troll of the Year - Please don't provide the trolls the attention they crave or they will never go away!

Thank you,

Jim Kuhn
Catfish4u

[TruePoker CEO]

Post of the Year : FAQs

Poster of the Year : probably Lori, largely because the FAQs tip the scale in an otherwise a close, crowded field ....

[El Barto]

Am I the only person who is not a big fan of the sticky posts?

They take up valuable real estate on this forum. If you lurk without signing in, you only get to see 10 threads, and the top 2 are wasted on stickys.

Put a sticky in the Beginners forum if you want, and have links there to a "FAQs" thread for each forum if you want.

To me, it just takes up space in this forum. The content is good, but the location is not.

[Jim Kuhn]

You can go to home/display preferences and increase the number of threads shown from 10 to 50.

Thank you,

Jim Kuhn
Catfish4u

[El Barto]

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You can go to home/display preferences and increase the number of threads shown from 10 to 50.

Thank you,

Jim Kuhn
Catfish4u

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You can't do this unless you sign in, as I said in my post:
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If you lurk without signing in, you only get to see 10 threads

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I know people like these stickys, but we could combine them into just one sticky called "Forum Rules and FAQs" with the content of both included.

[Fat Bottomed Girls]

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can someone point me to some classic gregorio?

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I think his very existence is just in people's imagination, unless they refer to that guy named Gregorio who was in the WSOP this year.

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I heard that Gregorio is really n1stunnor.

[Big Mac]

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What is the Post of the Year for 2004 here in the Zoo? Why?

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FAQ cause it eliminated recurring posts.

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What is the Thread of the Year for 2004 here in the Zoo? Why?

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Steven Punk had one that had me rolling plus how many people got mad or corrected his gramor.

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Who is the Poster of the Year for 2004 here in the Zoo? Why?

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Homer, because no one posted more free money than he did.

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Who is the Troll of the Year for 2004 here in the Zoo? Why?


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Ice Man I'd tell you but that would be DANGEROUS because you are writing checks your body can't cash.

[n1stunnor]

You caught me red-handed..............


Edit: My Troll(s) (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=810546&page=&view=&sb=5&o =&fpart=1&vc=1)
And (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=inet&Number=883955&Forum=, ,,All_Forums,,,&Words=&Searchpage=2&Limit=25&Main= 882369&Search=true&where=&Name=233&daterange=&newe rval=&newertype=&olderval=&oldertype=&bodyprev=#Po st883955)

[jek187]

Post of the Year: Bobo will always live fondly in my heart. (http://archiveserver.twoplustwo.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Number=500173&page=&view=&sb =5&o=&vc=1)

Thread of the Year: And it's not even close (http://archiveserver.twoplustwo.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Number=498421&page=&view=&sb =5&o=)

Poster of the Year: Lori, Granny, and Homer. MicroBob will be in this list next year, if he has a 2005 like he had 4th quarter 2004. He's always posted quality stuff, but in the fairly recent past he's become quite funny. I think it's because he's finally played enough hands where poker has instilled a certain silly cynicism. MS Sunshine is another poster I'd normally include, but his quantity just wasn't there this year.

Troll: Mary/PokerScene/Cyndie/Panace50. Pure, incompetent, slime.

[lorinda]

I agree entirely with post and thread of the year, it all makes me laugh even now.

Posters of the year are too many to name.

Fave troll is Bdids, his IRC spamming makes me giggle every time.
Your troll of the year needs some kind of mention, but I can't think of a printable category for her to win.(Some stray children might drop by.)

Lori

[B Dids]

Spamming- Huh?

I think I've been involed in like three discussions about IRC. Once (in three forums I guess, only because I wanted to make sure nobody missed it) to tell people why they might not regularly be able to get on- and twice because people were bitching in here.

I invite anybody to go through my posts and find instances where I've trolled anybody.

I realize you're trolling me, and that I'm sure you're getting satisfaction by the fact that I'm responding. I guess job well done, 'cause I can't make myself ignore this like I should.

[lorinda]

Possibly an offensive post (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=exchange&Number=1317297&Fo rum=c7&Words=lorinda&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Main=13 02625&Search=true&where=bodysub&Name=&daterange=1& newerval=1&newertype=m&olderval=&oldertype=&bodypr ev=#Post1317297)

Whilst I have always encouraged constructive critisism, and I don't even deny that I'm a lunatic, finding this tucked away where you thought I didn't look rather than saying something in the zoo might have something to do with your nomination.

Of course, you didn't have the guts to say it in this thread where I might have read it.

Lori

[jek187]

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lorinda is a lunatic who doesn't belong on any list of good posters.

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I can concur that Lori has some not-so-sane moments. However, Lori has a trait that at least 85% of 2+2ers are lacking. Lori can think for herself. Way too many people here subscribe to a hive mentality, and when faced with facts that contradict what the hive leaders say, they deteriorate into completely illogical babbling.

Lori is one of the few really good posters left around here, and writing like this about her speaks volumes about the author.

[B Dids]

Umm... you realize that's in OTT. 90% of that forum is "offensive" by your definition. If you wanted a better trolling post- I suggested that somebody be killed by fire yesterday.

I'm pretty sure you read that OTT post when I first made it, and I assumed you would (and if you just got lucky and found the one post I've made referencing out out of the near 2000 posts I've made, I'm impressed). I'm not trying to "hide" anything. Yeah- I think you're a lunatic. I'm also not going to waste my time or pollute the zoo by sharing that I feel that way.

Anybody with a sense of perspective can see what's going on, and I've given this far too much attention anyway. Done with this nonsense.

[Jim Kuhn]

Oops! Should have been Mike Haven for the TGC OIC and posting contributions. Sorry for the confusion. I also forgot about JEK. But he was very busy with bonuswhores and was not nearly as active as 2003. Sorry for everyone else I failed to mention.

Thank you,

Jim Kuhn
Catfish4u

[MicroBob]

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I think it's because he's finally played enough hands where poker has instilled a certain silly cynicism.

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"Finally" is right. Certainly took me long enough.


Thanks for the mentions. Very flattering.


I think this is a tough call....Lori abandoned us for that Big Brother thing when I think the Zoo needed her the most.
I have since forgiven (even though I hate almost ALL reality-TV) but not necessarily forgotten!

MS-Sunshine has mostly been missing-in-action the 2nd half of this year but has had some REALLY good posts including his info on notes and rating-system and his general methods. I think I learn as much from MSSunshine's posts as anyone.


Cubswin (whom I'm surprised I haven't seen mentioned) has had some great posts too and is easily the most knowledgeable and well-infomred on the leagal situation in internet-poker and goes WAY out of his way to keep everyone updated.
While there's not much discussion about this in some of his 'News of the Week' threads I think they could actually turn out to be some of the most important posts later down the road (as I'm sure he'll re-hash much of the info as the situation develops and warrants).


Homer's had some REALLY good posts. Although, the streaks-graphs post was originally in the SS forum several months ago...so does a quality re-run count??
I think Homer's info on casino-whoring and building a bank-roll might put him over the top and he would be my nominee.
But it's a VERY close call.

Post of the year is either Homer's Building a Roll or Lori's FAQ or the whole pattern-mapping thing or the empire-500 fiasco.
I'll go with the FAQ just for the important role it fills.

My Dad just sent me an e-mail that his golfing buddy (who thinks he's decent at poker) wants to play on the internet and asked him to get my recommendations. I gave him the general stuff (Party for ring-games, Stars is best for tourneys imo and for micro-limits...set up a neteller acct) and then I told him to tell his friend that he can also go to twoplustwo, then internet-forum, then the FAQ.

That kind of stands out in my mind as making it a very important post....it has SO MUCH info that almost all fairly new internet players really NEED to know.

I think it was marginally more important than my own 'Cat Sat on my Computer' post (which received a Post of the Year nomination within the thread btw).


I'll agree that Ryan is troll of the yr.

Comeback poster of the year might be Lebronomania....who seemed to be a bit trollish early in his career but has made quite a few decent posts in his return.

[Sandstone]

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Fave troll is Bdids, his IRC spamming makes me giggle every time.

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Oh lordy no! Not IRC! I hear they sacrifice infants there and scrawl out their hand histories in the blood of newborns... You know, when they're not engaged in ritualistic sodomy.

Stop by some time.

[ctv1116]

no its not (http://archiveserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=498421&page=&view=&sb=5&o =&fpart=1&vc=1)

[4thstreetpete]

I know this may be unpopular but the post of the year for me anyways was the original Empire 500 bonus code. It turned out to be a disaster afterwards, BUT not for everyone. There's lots of people who did get the $500 bonus this I know for a fact (if you know what I mean, hint hint, wink wink)......and some even got their bonus after it was taken back from 90% of the players.

2+2 has been helpful to me, lots of great information and all but this was THEE first post on this forum that actually paid imediate dividends for me....if you know what I mean.

[4thstreetpete]

poster of the year for me is MicroBob. I do enjoy reading his posts. Some are pretty deep and thought provoking and it does give a glimpse of what's it like to play for a living.

I think he should post a blog. I think a lot of people would be interested and follow his journal. If I was playing for a living I would definately be posting a blog too. It's a great way to stay focused, plus it's fun.
As I am right now I hardly have time to get a few hours of pooker in everyday.

[kdog]

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What is the Post of the Year for 2004 here in the Zoo? Why?

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The FAQ. Now if the noobs will only read it.

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What is the Thread of the Year for 2004 here in the Zoo? Why?



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Pattern maps because it made me laugh for days. Honorable mention to Homer's Building a Bankroll and the Empire 500.

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Who is the Poster of the Year for 2004 here in the Zoo? Why?


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Microbob for consistency throughout the year. Many others post good stuff (helpful, funny or both) but no one did it day in and day out like he did.

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Who is the Troll of the Year for 2004 here in the Zoo? Why?


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Gabyyyyy for sheer perserverence. Honorable mention to Bumpenstein for his cast of characters and not getting caught at it.

[jasonHoldEm]

I can't think of a post off the top of my head, but I'd say Microbob for poster of the year. Watching his evolution as a player and poster over the last year has been really enjoyable and I've learned to steer clear of him at the tables (luckily I don't believe he knows my my user name, so I have a slight advantage those times the game is too juicy to leave).

J

[TylerD]

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What is the Post of the Year for 2004 here in the Zoo? Why?


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The FAQ. Its obvious why.

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What is the Thread of the Year for 2004 here in the Zoo? Why?

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Pattern mapping. (Its over now though, over. The joke is way past funny now)

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Who is the Poster of the Year for 2004 here in the Zoo? Why?

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Homer, for his spreadsheets, casino whoring posts and Building a Bankroll. (Honourable mention: Cubswin, for his news updates.)

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Who is the Troll of the Year for 2004 here in the Zoo? Why?

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Dunno, they're all equally dull.

Most Improved Poster: Microbob. The quality of his posts have improved dramatically. The length of his posts are still the same (hefty) but the quality is much better, well done Bob.

[MicroBob]

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The length of his posts are still the same (hefty)

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You think??
LOL


Actually, believe it or not I have been working on keeping my posts more concise and believe I have actually been marginally successful.
some of my early posts were even longer, sillier rants about nothing inparticular.


Thanks for the compliment.

[RollaJ]

IMHO

I think thread of the year was the one where everyone tried to be the final poster in the thread, till Matt gave us a winner by closing the thread after like 400 posts.
I dont know how to find it, but I thought that was funny yet annoying

Troll of the year is Ryan

Poster of the year is Matt with the "Affiliate Party is Over" Thread

Post of the year was the one that showed us all the Lucky Nugget Bonus of 200 for 50 that got everyone into casino whoring....... till they caught on /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Bump-en-Stein]

This was a funny thread where the Nutz Poker guy blames losing his job on William.

Nutz Poker Guy (http://archiveserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=inet&Number=707513&Forum=, ,,,,,All_Forums,,,,,,&Words=&Searchpage=6&Limit=25 &Main=707486&Search=true&where=bodysub&Name=9910&d aterange=1&newerval=1&newertype=y&olderval=&oldert ype=&bodyprev=#Post707513)

[Oski]

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What is the Post of the Year for 2004 here in the Zoo? Why?

What is the Thread of the Year for 2004 here in the Zoo? Why?

Who is the Poster of the Year for 2004 here in the Zoo? Why?

Who is the Troll of the Year for 2004 here in the Zoo? Why?


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1. The FAQ is good, also like the No Affiliate post by Mat.

2. Pattern Map, or Empire 500.

3. Micro Bob - no contest.

4. Troll of the Year: Steven Punk.

Explaination: This forum often misuses the term "troll" in my opinion. Troll has to do with the intent of the poster, not the reader's reaction. In other words, a troll has an ulterior motive and is trying to get a response from another for an unstated reason.

Here, this forum tends to label a poster that is unpopular, stupid, naive or commonly disagreed with a "troll." For example, Gabbyyyy is not a troll (unless her whole persona is a put on). Gabbyyyy is a genuine poster who is a number of things (combative, stupid, funny, pathetic, etc.) but, it is all sincere.

Cyndie, on the other hand, was a troll. She presented issues and "help" but only because she was trying to steer customers her way. She does not qualify for this year, however, because she practically closed up shop at the end of 2003.

Humorous posters/characters. These types of posters cannot be trolls, because the purpose is clearly presented ... they are there as a joke. Since you cannot take the joker seriously, there is nothing for the poster to be "trolling." Ice Man is a good example: he always stayed in his character, and it was obvious he was not a serious poster. That is not a troll ... its a humorous character.

Gregorio/Tyfromm: Was a troll, in fact he was the personification of the troll. He started by copying and bumping other people's threads, and made it his purpose to bother people. However, despite the creativity of his bumping technique, he was not creative or subtle in his trolling technique. In fact, once his named became locked in as Tyfromm, he became non-troll and often contributes humorous posts. "He" would be troll of the year if not for Punk.

TT is like Andy Kaufmann for the Zoo. He was pushing the envelope and getting people to react strongly to seemingly innocuous posts. Although Steven Punk is/was a humorous character, he was created with many subtle trolling techniques.

For example: the simple mispellings of the purported noble man. Countless times posters would go out of their way to correct the spellings and debate punk on trivial issues, all the while, TT intended such a reaction.

To take it further, many posters went out of their way to "track" TT and his characters and otherwise waste their time. In fact, TT invited and expected such reactions, thus he was trolling in high style.

So, I vote Steven Punk as troll of the year.

Also, I would like to state that I appreciate the humor and good nature of 2000 Flushes, ArchAngel, Thomas Tem, Bump-en-Stein (and friends), Husker, Something Clever, AstroGlide and william (wherever he went). I read this forum primarily for the information, but I like to laugh as well.

[RollaJ]

I dont think the pattern map is eligible for the 2004 award

[eMarkM]

I can't believe no one mentioned this yet. It was early in the year, so like Oscar candidates those early releases tend to be forgotten.

Thread of the Year, Can Party Poker 4th and 5th street cards be predicted? (http://archiveserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=498421&page=&view=&sb=5&o =&fpart=1&vc=1), aka Pattern Map. Ulysses started the fire storm on the top of page 2.

That hoax was so elaborate, yet completely spontaneous, so it seemed plausible. It sucked so many people in and spawned many sub-threads for months and in fact spread beyond IG and 2+2 into internet legend. You can still do a search on "pattern map" in the past few weeks and see posts on it.

[TylerD]

I did!!

[RollaJ]

My bad, thought it was a 2003 thread