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Elektrik
12-11-2004, 07:36 PM
My main question is on the river play, although comments on the flop raise are appreciated.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney ($50+5), Big Blind is t200 (4 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Hero (t2075)
UTG (t1945)
Button (t1710)
SB (t4270)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG calls t200, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (t600) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets t200</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t600</font>, UTG folds, SB calls t400.

Turn: (t1800) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: (t1800) 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets t900</font>, Hero..?

jcm4ccc
12-11-2004, 11:00 PM
I would have folded on the flop. It's such a weak holding; it's possible that you are already beaten. If not, your hand is quite vulnerable to getting beat on the turn or river. There are straight draws and flush draws on the board. Your opponent may also have overcards. So many ways for you to get beaten (if you're not already beaten).

I assume you raised on the flop in order to make your opponent fold. When he didn't (and didn't reraise you all-in), you have to assume he has something.

It's quite possible that the SB was drawing to the flush, and decided to try a bluff on the river when he didn't hit it. However, your hand is too weak to stand up to a bluff. I would definitely fold.

HUSKER'66
12-11-2004, 11:20 PM
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My main question is on the river play, although comments on the flop raise are appreciated.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney ($50+5), Big Blind is t200 (4 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Hero (t2075)
UTG (t1945)
Button (t1710)
SB (t4270)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG calls t200, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (t600) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets t200</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t600</font>, UTG folds, SB calls t400.

Turn: (t1800) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: (t1800) 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets t900</font>, Hero..?

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Gives it up and folds.

It's not that I don't like the raise on the flop, it's the check on the turn that bothers me. I would have bet the pot (800t) on the flop and if called fired again on the turn.More than likely that five didn't help him and you check behind gives him an easier read on your hand. Your check gave control to the SB and he took advantage of it.

Without knowing the Sb's previous play, I wouldn't fear a sneaky limp with an overpair or a TP bigger kick. He had the chips and 1/2 bet (900t into 1800t) the pot on a scare card. I think you could have lost him and won on the turn if you would have fired again.

Just my thoughts,

Husker