My best hand ever.....was a great feeling.

[basshuntr]

Have to pass on one of the best hands (for me) I have ever played/been
involved in. I am on assignment up near Detroit, so I head to GreekTown
Casino to check out the action. A lot of tables, from 3-6 up to 20-40 and
a few NL tables. The only Tournaments they have are what they call a
Lighting tourney. This is basically a $100+$10 SNG. You get T1500 blinds
start at 10-20, then 20-40, then 50-100, and double every time the button
makes a cycle around the 10 person table. Payout is $600, $300, $100. I
decide to take a shot, as the place seems so damn loose, and I picked up
the $110 buyin in 30-40 minutes on a 3-6 table.

I am playing well, tight aggressive. Pick up a few pots here and there;
knock out 2 ppl, built my stack to around T4000. Guy sitting directly to
my left is also a good, tight-aggressive player and has about T3500 and he
has knocked out 2 ppl. Then the following hand comes up (I honestly
forget what position I am in, sorry):

I am dealt pocket 8’s. Blinds are 50-100. Have some limpers in front of
me. I raise to 100, everyone calls including the limpers. We have 6 in
the pot. Flop comes 8-8-Q (2 diamonds). I am doing somersaults in my
head…..flopped Quad 8’s!! I tell myself to calm down and think….because I
need to extract the maximum amount of $$$ for this dream hand. The 3
limpers check around to me…. I check. Guy on my left takes a few minutes
and bets 500. 1 guy after him calls rather quickly in my opinion. 2 of
the first 3 limpers fold, then one calls. It gets to me, and I go into
the tank. I am acting like I am REALLY struggling with this call, then I
look up at the guy on my left and say, “you have A-8 and flop a set on
me???” He says nothing. I say, “Alright, I call”. We now have 4 in the
pot. Turn Comes and it’s a Jd. It checks to me and I check. Mr. tight
Aggressive bets out another 500. Guy on his calls all-in for 450, guy in
front of me calls all-in for about 300. It gets to me and, again, I go
into the tank. I wait so long, someone at the table said I need to ask
for time if I am going to take so long. (exactly what I wanted to happen)
I act pissed off, and say “OK well then TIME!!!” I then sigh real big and
say, “Call”.

We know have 2 guys all-in and what I feel are the 2 best players at the
table heads up for the river. (I know egotistical LOL) River comes 10
off suit. As soon as the river card hits the table I say, “I’m all in”.
Mr. tight aggressive next to me, acts a bit surprised by this, but quickly
says “ I can’t believe you did that…..I call” The 2 guys who were all in

flip their cards and one says “ I have a flush” and he had a 3-4 of
diamonds. The next all in guy says, “Dammit I was afraid of that. I hit
a straight” and turns over A-K of clubs, and says something about jerks
playing any 2 suited cards! LOL

Then my buddy, Mr. Tight Aggressive, looks over at the 3-4 flush guy and
says “Sorry dude” and turns over the A-7 of diamonds. I then am about to
bust, and I say “well boys this was about like a perfect storm for you
guys” and flip over my pocket 8’s. The whole table and about 30 guys
around it all exploded and went NUTS!!!

3 people knocked out, and I just took about 80% of the chips on the table.
The other 2 guys (rather weak players) thanked me repeatedly for getting
them to the $$$, and it was a easy coast to the $600 from there.

I had to write this one up, as they don’t happen that often!!!

Basshuntr

[Daliman]

So you made a bad preflop raise(which, the way you related it, isn't even a raise...), flop quads, put on one of the more transparent weak acts in the history of poker, and have 3 people chase VERY badly.

Congratulations.

[basshuntr]

People crack me up....will try to find something to critisize in everything...even though he knows nothing of the dynamics of the table, what % of the time were people limping and/or raising and if raising for how much. Do they know for example if you raise a standard 3-4xBB that everyone folds almost 90% of the time?

I agree that 2 chased badly, but the player to my left flopped the nut flush draw, and he was my main opponent. I have been told by many I *respect* (including some names you would recognize) that I played it about as well as I could. How can you find fault when the ultimate goal is to take everyone's chips that are in the pot when you flop a monster like quads and that is what you do. Almost EVERY other move (bet) I make will cause the people in the hand to fold, and I rake LESS chips.

And just for the record, since you like to critize, I have been there the past 3 nights, played in the lightning tourney 8 times. Out of the $ once....4 first, 2 second, 1 third. I basically won my entry every night prior to playing, so that is $3100 Not counting entry fees, BUT I am sure you will find some fault in that. Fire away.

OH Grand Poker Wizard, please enlighten me on the proper way to play this hand. (Even though you know going in, you cannot obtain a better result) Please, please....I am constantly hitting refresh to see your inspired words!!

[basshuntr]

LOL, also just noticed you called it one of the most 'transparent acts in poker history' LOL Were you there? I am sure you would have immediately put me on quads....what a loser.

[Daliman]

[ QUOTE ]
LOL, also just noticed you called it one of the most 'transparent acts in poker history' LOL Were you there? I am sure you would have immediately put me on quads....what a loser.

[/ QUOTE ]

[ QUOTE ]
I am acting like I am REALLY struggling with this call, then I
look up at the guy on my left and say, “you have A-8 and flop a set on
me???” He says nothing. I say, “Alright, I call”.

[/ QUOTE ]

<font color="white"> TRANSPARENT!</font>

[jcm4ccc]

Nice hand. However, I agree with Daliman. Very bad form at the table, and totally unnecessary (3 people call a big bet before you). You actually made them wait long enough for "time" to get called. No wonder the table went nuts when you showed your quads. I'm surprised your car wasn't keyed in the parking lot.

[basshuntr]

Actually, was alot of pats on the back, some "great play!"'s, alot of handshakes, and they guy actually bought us a beer. No one was mad... at all.

[jcm4ccc]

maybe the way you wrote it up made it sound worse than it actually was.

[basshuntr]

you are probably right on the money on that one....my demeanor at the table is very jovial, friendly...make alot of friends....etc. There were 4 at the table that played in the previous tourney that I won, so they knew the type of player I was...etc

[pshreck]

This is all really lame. Talking to that guy about the hand, during the hand, with other people in play is 1) a HUGE tell (Im sure you didnt realize that) and 2) not allowed in most places as there are 2 OTHERS IN THE HAND. It could easily be seen as colluding (perhaps what you are saying he had is what actually you had, etc...).

It would have been a great dream hand if you played it cool, and perhaps got payed off by players that weren't playing like idiots.

I have had quads payed off by the best full house at Foxwoods, and I certainly didn't take 'time' or make any assenine comments, and it still felt pretty good.

[Daliman]

[ QUOTE ]
People crack me up....will try to find something to critisize in everything...even though he knows nothing of the dynamics of the table, what % of the time were people limping and/or raising and if raising for how much. Do they know for example if you raise a standard 3-4xBB that everyone folds almost 90% of the time?

I agree that 2 chased badly, but the player to my left flopped the nut flush draw, and he was my main opponent. I have been told by many I *respect* (including some names you would recognize) that I played it about as well as I could. How can you find fault when the ultimate goal is to take everyone's chips that are in the pot when you flop a monster like quads and that is what you do. Almost EVERY other move (bet) I make will cause the people in the hand to fold, and I rake LESS chips.

And just for the record, since you like to critize, I have been there the past 3 nights, played in the lightning tourney 8 times. Out of the $ once....4 first, 2 second, 1 third. I basically won my entry every night prior to playing, so that is $3100 Not counting entry fees, BUT I am sure you will find some fault in that. Fire away.

OH Grand Poker Wizard, please enlighten me on the proper way to play this hand. (Even though you know going in, you cannot obtain a better result) Please, please....I am constantly hitting refresh to see your inspired words!!

[/ QUOTE ]

Well, what I do know is that a raise to 100 at 50-100 level is not a raise, and even if you RAISED it 100, it's a horrendous raise. Who do you think is folding here? Do you really want to get more money in the pot with a hand that can only continue logically on the flop 1 out of every 7 or so times? And if they fold when you make a 3-4x raise, it seems to me raising a couple limpers and taking 350-450 chips profit without a fight is DEFINITELY better than seeing a flop 6 handed for 200 with 88, results notwithstanding.

Otherwise, yeah, your specific slowplaying actions are what 99% of the population would do.

So, you made $2700 on there so far, likely riding a string of good fortune in doing so, as anyone would have to. Congrats. A nice profit, to say the least. But if you think that # impresses me, you are barking up the wrong tree, Fido.

My main problem with your post is how smugly it comes off, and how smugly you appear to have acted in your own words. I can only imagine how bad it actually was. I can understand the excitement, and why you would want to post about it, but please, save the "How brilliantly did I play these flopped quads?" for your friends who know little about poker. You had 3 people jump on your sword. Doesn't make you a Samurai.

P.S. If your "main" opponent,(debatable as well, but whatever) was a good, tight aggressive player, he would not have out another dime in the pot after the flop, ESPECIALLY after your hackneyed comment. His turn bet is horrendous beyond all comprehension, but then again, you two WERE the best players at the table, which, given my live experience, may even be possible here.

[basshuntr]

I REALLY didn't mean to come off that way (smug..etc) I guess I should have waited a day or so after the hand to post it. As I said No one took it as me being smug...etc and my intention was never to say "look how great I plaed these" Guess it was just my excitement over the whole thing. The Raise to 100 was a mis-type...it was a min-raise to 200. Probably still debatable, but like I said, raise a standard 3-4Xbb and all fold.

Sorry if I gave the wrong impression.

[basshuntr]

BTW, I actually laughed at the Samuari quip...LOL

Explain to me (seriously) why you think his bet on the turn was horrible? He had just hit the nut flush. Just curious as to why this was a horrible bet...etc.

[Marcotte]

At risk of stating the obvious, let me point out that anyone with trip 8s on the turn has 9 outs to improve to a boat on the river and one to improve to quads.

[basshuntr]

I think you mis-read the post(s)

[Daliman]

[ QUOTE ]
BTW, I actually laughed at the Samuari quip...LOL

Explain to me (seriously) why you think his bet on the turn was horrible? He had just hit the nut flush. Just curious as to why this was a horrible bet...etc.

[/ QUOTE ]

My fault. Thought he hit the flush on the river. His bet is fine, although I can't imagaine why he's be happy to call the river,(seems he was).

Otherwise, no biggie, man.

[basshuntr]

Its kool....like you pointed out...was just my over-excitement about the hand, and the obvious rush I was on for the last few days. I guess I should just be thankful I didn't have a stroke when the quads hit.

[SmileyEH]

zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

-SmileyEH

[KJS]

I wasn't there either but I have to say, the way you describe things, it sounds like a classic and very obvious "weak means strong" tell. If the guy next to you didn't pick up on that he is not as good as you make him out to be.

Great hand.

KJS

[aeakos]

Nice hand man. Enjoy it!

[Toro]

I liked the way you tricked them when you said “you have A-8 and flop a set on me???” by trying to make it sound like you're a real noob because if he had A8 and two 8's flopped that would be "trips" and not a "set". Good fake out. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Unarmed]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Ha.

This thread is funnnnnnnnnnny.

[pshreck]

[ QUOTE ]
I liked the way you tricked them when you said “you have A-8 and flop a set on me???” by trying to make it sound like you're a real noob because if he had A8 and two 8's flopped that would be "trips" and not a "set". Good fake out. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

I hope you are kidding. If not then this just makes the thread even funnier.

[rybones]

This whole thread makes me feel all warm and gooyey inside. Can't you all just feel the love.

I think I'm gonna cry

[wayabvpar]

[ QUOTE ]
I liked the way you tricked them when you said “you have A-8 and flop a set on me???” by trying to make it sound like you're a real noob because if he had A8 and two 8's flopped that would be "trips" and not a "set". Good fake out. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Heh. I thought the same thing.

[tubbyspencer]

I think most of you guys are missing the point. Let me pull out some of the "cooler" things about this hand, from the original post.


[ QUOTE ]
It gets to me, and I go into the tank. I am acting like I am REALLY struggling with this call

[/ QUOTE ]

You see, the interesting thing here is that HE ACTUALLY KNEW THE WHOLE TIME THAT HE WOULD CALL.


[ QUOTE ]
then I
look up at the guy on my left and say, “you have A-8 and flop a set on me???” He says nothing. I say, “Alright, I call”

[/ QUOTE ]

Then, he PRETENDS HE DOESN'T HAVE POCKET 8s!!! See? Because if he did, he wouldn't say "You have A8", because that wouldn't be possible.

[ QUOTE ]
It gets to me and, again, I go into the tank. I wait so long, someone at the table said I need to ask
for time if I am going to take so long.

[/ QUOTE ]

If you don't understand why that's "cool", I doubt I can explain it to you.

[ QUOTE ]
I act pissed off, and say “OK well then TIME!!!” I then sigh real big and say, “Call”.

[/ QUOTE ]

More pretending. This actually backs up and reinforces the previous pretending.

A final note:

He slow rolls the nuts, even though he was last to raise. I hope the others learned their lesson.

[Unarmed]

AAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Awesome.

Seriously basshuntr, we're not all @ssholes here.
All in good fun, consider yourself initiated.

[Marcotte]

[ QUOTE ]
I think you mis-read the post(s)

[/ QUOTE ]

There's 3200 in the pot on the turn right? You have around 3300 left. (200 pf called by 6, 500 on the flop called by 4.) The other two have less than 500, so they're probably calling with almost anything. If you have an 8, you are 3.6:1 to improve. Without the two allin calls, you are getting 37:5 or 7.4:1 to call his 500 bet. With the calls you are getting over 8:1.

Who knows what the Villain put you on (AQ?). It's hard to put you on an 8 with the min-raise preflop. You don't have a boat on the turn (J8/Q8), but it he thinks it's at all possible for you to have the 8 he shouldn't give you odds to draw to the boat.

[KingMedicine]

jesusshit, give the guy a break - why try to rip him to shreds just for sharing his excitment?

its thread like this, with all the criticism and unnecessary bashing, that sometimes makes me dislike 2ers.

[ThorGoT]

I liked the post also. Nice to see how live play goes down.

[Toro]

[ QUOTE ]
jesusshit, give the guy a break - why try to rip him to shreds just for sharing his excitment?

its thread like this, with all the criticism and unnecessary bashing, that sometimes makes me dislike 2ers.

[/ QUOTE ]

Lighten up. Think of it like Freshman hazing. What doesn't kill you, makes you stronger.

[Sharksfan]

Congrats to the original poster, I would have been just as excited as you. To all the people who are knocking him for this or that....good grief, he just wanted to share his excitement with other poker lovers, but you can't stand to see anybody but yourselves do any good, so you try to rain on his parade...get over yourselves. I'm sorry, but nobody here is the "perfect" poker player, if you were, you sure wouldn't be wasting your time here. He had a great hand and played it perfectly for the situation and place he was in. He said early on he played because he could tell the players weren't great players, so he played in a way that would get them. Good job!

[Bigwig]

Nice hand.

However, at the risk of jumping on the bandwagon of ripping you, I must ask you something. By your description of the hand, did you slow roll the nuts on the river? I don't mind your act or anything, but if you really sat back and let everyone lay their hands out and then slam your 8's down--that's not cool. Just say, "I've got the nuts," and end their agony.

[jedi]

[ QUOTE ]
A final note:

He slow rolls the nuts, even though he was last to raise. I hope the others learned their lesson.

[/ QUOTE ]

What lesson would that be, to not be a jerk?

The rest of the story just smacks of bad acting, but the last part is just ridiculous grandstanding. Just turn over the Quads and take your chips. Other than that, nice hand.

[Myst]

Next time you flop quads, bet out on it. Nobody would expect a person whose flopped quads, let alone trips, to make that kind of play.

[Bigwig]

[ QUOTE ]
Next time you flop quads, bet out on it. Nobody would expect a person whose flopped quads, let alone trips, to make that kind of play.

[/ QUOTE ]

That's a perfectly good play with trips, or with quads in a heads-up pot. But not with quads in a multi-way pot. I want to give as many free cards as possible to let players make flushes, straights, or full boats. I'm check/calling to the river in this case.

EDIT--Or are you just joking?

[stillnotking]

Slow rolling is only funny to the person doing it. If you slow-rolled this hand just for fun, you're a dumb jerk. If you slow-rolled it to put the other players on tilt, you're a smart jerk. Either way, /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Daliman]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Next time you flop quads, bet out on it. Nobody would expect a person whose flopped quads, let alone trips, to make that kind of play.

[/ QUOTE ]

That's a perfectly good play with trips, or with quads in a heads-up pot. But not with quads in a multi-way pot. I want to give as many free cards as possible to let players make flushes, straights, or full boats. I'm check/calling to the river in this case.

EDIT--Or are you just joking?

[/ QUOTE ]

No way. Bet those quads. I don't want to give any free cards to allow someone to catch up.

[tubbyspencer]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
A final note:

He slow rolls the nuts, even though he was last to raise. I hope the others learned their lesson.

[/ QUOTE ]

What lesson would that be, to not be a jerk?


[/ QUOTE ]

Uhhhhhh, that was my point.

[stillnotking]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
A final note:

He slow rolls the nuts, even though he was last to raise. I hope the others learned their lesson.

[/ QUOTE ]

What lesson would that be, to not be a jerk?


[/ QUOTE ]

Uhhhhhh, that was my point.

[/ QUOTE ]

What would've been really funny is if someone had flipped over the Td9d for the straight flush. Now that would have cracked me up. I can't stand slow rollers.

[jedi]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
A final note:

He slow rolls the nuts, even though he was last to raise. I hope the others learned their lesson.

[/ QUOTE ]

What lesson would that be, to not be a jerk?


[/ QUOTE ]

Uhhhhhh, that was my point.

[/ QUOTE ]

Got it /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[basshuntr]

I think I realize this now....(hazing..etc)

The only thing missing is me stripping down and having to carry something with my ass-cheeks across the quad at lunch!!! LOL

[basshuntr]

Actually No...I know what slow-rolling is and do not like it either. I actually couldn't get a word in edge-wise, because everyone ELSE thought they had the nuts. Just kinda how it played out.

[basshuntr]

Once and for all....I did not slow roll!!! I gave you exactly how it played out.....we pretty much all flipped over at the same time, but in terms of who spoke first....the guy who hit the little flush said "flush" the guy who hit an Ace High straight was pissed that someone played the 3d4d and beat him, and they didn't notice my 8's until they each had spoken....and I waited until they noticed before I spoke. I guess I wrote it kind of in a linear manner, but this took all of maybe 5-10 seconds in real time.

So for the record....

I know I am a bad actor
I know I am a horrible poker player
I know all who post here are better than me
I know I shouldn't have had the Temerity (look it up) to even THINK about posting here
I know I will never amount to anything in life

(Tongue firmly in cheek) and oh yeah, all y'all can bite my butt.

LOL

Just jokin guys....Like some have said, was just wanting to share really an exciting hand for me....nothing more, nothing less.

[jedi]

[ QUOTE ]
Once and for all....I did not slow roll!!! I guess I wrote it kind of in a linear manner, but this took all of maybe 5-10 seconds in real time.



[/ QUOTE ]

5 seconds!?!?!? If you were at my table, I'd chew you out for taking that long to show the 2nd nuts.

[basshuntr]

You'd then have a really big problem .

[pshreck]

Bass huntr... you still have a lot to learn. 5-10 seconds is in fact slowrolling.

[basshuntr]

well now some of you are sounding delusional.....or can't read...I don't know which. I said we all flipped them over at the same time, I just didn't jump up and scream I have the nuts I have the nuts!!!! I didn't say anything until they finished screaming about their hands and noticed the quads.

Jesus guys, I mean really.

[emonrad87]

[ QUOTE ]
Slow rolling is only funny to the person doing it. If you slow-rolled this hand just for fun, you're a dumb jerk. If you slow-rolled it to put the other players on tilt, you're a smart jerk. Either way, /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[/ QUOTE ]


Putting someone on tilt when you knock them out of a tourney would not be a smart move, unless you were planning on following them to a ring game...

tilt after a KO = fight in parking lot

[jedi]

[ QUOTE ]
well now some of you are sounding delusional.....or can't read...I don't know which. I said we all flipped them over at the same time, I just didn't jump up and scream I have the nuts I have the nuts!!!! I didn't say anything until they finished screaming about their hands and noticed the quads.

Jesus guys, I mean really.

[/ QUOTE ]

First of all, you didn't have the nuts. Second of all, you're the last agressor, you're required to show first. You would have been better off if you didn't say anything.

[ QUOTE ]

Then my buddy, Mr. Tight Aggressive, looks over at the 3-4 flush guy and says “Sorry dude” and turns over the A-7 of diamonds. I then am about to bust, and I say “well boys this was about like a perfect storm for you guys” and flip over my pocket 8’s. The whole table and about 30 guys around it all exploded and went NUTS!!!


[/ QUOTE ]

Third, if you flipped the cards over at the same time, why didn't you write that the first time around?

[goldseraph]

Entertaining thread... and good point Jedi /images/graemlins/grin.gif