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wall_st
12-07-2004, 11:36 PM
I just recently started bonus whoring and have whored almost the entire 500 raked hands at interpoker. I have been exclusively playing 1/2 and have noticed that the play there is EXTREMELY tight. Has anyone else noticed this at these tables ? I think about half of the raises I made pre flop were folded all around , so i would end up just winning the blinds. I rarely had any showdowns whatsoever as most people were folding on to the last bet or even earlier.

I can't decided if the play is actually good or if it is just ridiculously tight there.

KingMarc
12-07-2004, 11:40 PM
InterPoker is generally quite loose, especially at European prime times.

On a side note, if you're just bonus whoring, you may want to wait 2 weeks for their 12 days of christmas promotions, and do the 500 hands then.

wall_st
12-08-2004, 12:16 AM
What would be considered european prime time ?

What is the 12 days of christmas bonus ? Is it worth sticking around for I have cleared about 400 of my 500 raked hands so far and honestly would like to move my roll to continue whoring. The play has been so tight it is absurd, I read on the bonus whores forum that this is often the case in the beginning of the month as most people move there and just play the min then get out.

PuertoKid
12-08-2004, 12:36 AM
Yes, it is ridiculously tight. At least the hours i go there to play. I cannot go during Euro prime times.

Freakin
12-08-2004, 01:03 AM
"Go back to Puerto Rica"

You should all learn how to play 6-max tables. The ones at interpoker are pretty juicy, and you work off your hands much faster. Check out the HUSH forum.

Freakin

Kenrick
12-08-2004, 04:45 AM
Crypto 1/2 full seems to be ridiculously tight. The 1/2 6-max is a different story, however.

HesseJam
12-08-2004, 04:48 AM
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"Go back to Puerto Rica"

You should all learn how to play 6-max tables. The ones at interpoker are pretty juicy, and you work off your hands much faster. Check out the HUSH forum.

Freakin

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You just want to entice more fish to your tables /images/graemlins/wink.gif. I am not biting!

Overdrive
12-08-2004, 10:06 AM
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I just recently started bonus whoring and have whored almost the entire 500 raked hands at interpoker. I have been exclusively playing 1/2 and have noticed that the play there is EXTREMELY tight. Has anyone else noticed this at these tables ? I think about half of the raises I made pre flop were folded all around , so i would end up just winning the blinds. I rarely had any showdowns whatsoever as most people were folding on to the last bet or even earlier.

I can't decided if the play is actually good or if it is just ridiculously tight there.

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Free yourself from the Hold Em ghetto and play a more interesting game like Stud or Omaha.

playersare
12-08-2004, 04:05 PM
you guys may not be interested in this solution, but on a strictly whoring basis, I find it much easier and quicker to clear the bonus over at their partner site Intercasino playing basic strategy $2 blackjack. Instead of 450 raked hands which takes about 8-10 hours on one table, it only takes about 3 hours to play 1200 hands of blackjack (400 hands/hour at $2 using turbo mode). also your statistical variance will probably be lower, 0.5% house edge means your theoretical loss will only be about $12 after you meet the wagering requirement, and then you can cash out the $90 bonus immediately. best of all, no expensive bad beats, and no waiting forever for other players to make their decisions!

the only catch is that you cannot get the bonus on both intercasino and interpoker in the same month, so make sure you choose in advance. I for one do not miss playing at IP one iota.

itsmarty
12-08-2004, 05:30 PM
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your statistical variance will probably be lower, 0.5% house edge means your theoretical loss will only be about $12 after you meet the wagering requirement

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It makes no sense for those of us who expect to win to play a game where we expect to lose instead.

Sure, over any particular 450 hand period, I could finish in the red, but month over month, my expectation for clearing the Interpoker bonus is far higher than -0.5%

Martin

BradleyT
12-08-2004, 05:43 PM
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you guys may not be interested in this solution, but on a strictly whoring basis, I find it much easier and quicker to clear the bonus over at their partner site Intercasino playing basic strategy $2 blackjack. Instead of 450 raked hands which takes about 8-10 hours on one table, it only takes about 3 hours to play 1200 hands of blackjack (400 hands/hour at $2 using turbo mode). also your statistical variance will probably be lower, 0.5% house edge means your theoretical loss will only be about $12 after you meet the wagering requirement, and then you can cash out the $90 bonus immediately. best of all, no expensive bad beats, and no waiting forever for other players to make their decisions!

the only catch is that you cannot get the bonus on both intercasino and interpoker in the same month, so make sure you choose in advance. I for one do not miss playing at IP one iota.

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I know I'm going to win at poker.
I know I'm going to lose at blackjack.

Pretty simple stuff.

Rudbaeck
12-08-2004, 07:47 PM
Playing the wrong time of the month? In the euro afternoon/evening it's loose as a goose at these tables. They do however suffer a severe tightening up the first week of every month as thousands of rock bonuswhores descend on the place.

$1/2 fullhanded has pretty much never had such bad table selection that I couldn't find a few tables with 40% see flop or more. Very passive preflop play.

$1/2 shorthanded has never ever failed me for finding a juicy game. Ever. At any time of the day or month.

playersare
12-08-2004, 09:23 PM
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It makes no sense for those of us who expect to win to play a game where we expect to lose instead.

Sure, over any particular 450 hand period, I could finish in the red, but month over month, my expectation for clearing the Interpoker bonus is far higher than -0.5%

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well it depends if we are talking about your EV on poker bets overall, or actual/theoretical profit PER HOUR. This thread is not an argument about how much better you think are at poker vs. blackjack, it is about maximizing a bonus opportunity strictly in reference to wh**ing the bonus itself.

here are my calculations. if we use interpoker/intercasino's $100 bonus for December, your wagering requirements are either 500 raked hands or $2500 in the casino. It will take about 10 hours to clear this on poker, but only a little more than 3 hours to do in blackjack. the key argument here is, can you earn more poker from actual play to make up for the additional time required to clear the bonus vs. blackjack (even at a slight loss).

for blackjack:
400 hands per hour in intercasino turbo mode
$800 of wagering per hour at $2 per hand (minimum bet)
3.125 hours to clear $2500 wagering requirement
$100 cash bonus minus $12.50 theoretical loss
($2500 times 0.5% casino edge S17 DAS Sp1 nS)
net win $87.50 divided by 3.125 hour
earnings rate $28.00 per hour

for poker:
about 60 hands per hour (per table)
80% raked hands average = 48 raked hands per hour
10.4 hours to clear 500 raked hands
$100 bonus = $9.60 per hour
amount of poker win required to match blackjack earnings rate = additional $18.40/hour (9+ big bets at 1/2 limits)

if you think you are good enough to earn $18 an hour consistently at 1/2 limits (just as an example), then good luck with that. my opinion is that it would be better to earn the bonus playing blackjack at a higher hourly rate for 3 hours, and then putting that into your poker bankroll, rather then playing off the bonus with just poker the whole time.

and one could definitely argue that there are better places to make money playing poker overall, than interpoker to begin with.

itsmarty
12-08-2004, 09:43 PM
That's pretty interesting, and I can see how it could be close if Turbo mode is auto play. Otherwise, I think the fact that I two- or three-table and mix in a healthy amount of NL makes a better case for poker.

Martin

BradleyT
12-08-2004, 10:23 PM
10 hours? Maybe 4 if you play 4 tables.