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DMBFan23
12-07-2004, 01:12 PM
Just wanted to see how most people handle this one. you've been at the table for a couple orbits, but not long enough to see how BB plays his blinds. reasonable player, 24/6 over about 90 hands.
Party Poker 2/4 Hold'Em (10 handed)
Hero is MP3 with J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif
3 folds, MP1 limps, 1 fold, Hero Raises, 3 folds, BB calls, MP1 calls.
Flop (6 SB): Q /images/graemlins/club.gif, T /images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 3 /images/graemlins/spade.gif
BB Bets, MP1 folds, Hero...?
call or raise?
how does it change if the Q/images/graemlins/club.gif is instead the A/images/graemlins/club.gif?
beginner
12-07-2004, 01:18 PM
I raise in both cases.
djoyce003
12-07-2004, 01:31 PM
I raise everytime. He might bet a 10 here, which you are ahead of. You've also got a backdoor no-gap straight draw plus your draw to your jacks. If he re-raises, then you have to re-assess but against a pre-flop raiser him reraising is not as likely. It would probably work as a free card play, or you could bet the turn if he checks to you and show down for free.
lu_hawk
12-07-2004, 01:52 PM
Well with a raise the flop, bet the turn, check behind on the river line you will need to win 40% of the time to breakeven. But this is a board that probably hit a PFR and a reasonable player is betting into you on a 3-way flop and you don't even have top pair.
DMBFan23
12-07-2004, 02:24 PM
hey sfer,
this is the HU way ahead/way behind line, but with position, no?
do you call even if the turn or river brings a king or an ace? to fold automatically seems weak, but hmm...
DMBFan23
12-07-2004, 03:36 PM
anyone else just call it down?
If he's intending to call down anyhow, why not raise the flop, bet the turn and check behind on the river? It would cheaper and the other player might fold to a turn bet.
DMBFan23
12-07-2004, 05:17 PM
assuming that we are in a way ahead/behind situation doesn't this line make us less when AT stops betting?
It's not exactly way ahead/way behind. It's possibly ahead/way behind. The pot isn't so big I want to win right now, but not so small I want to give up. So I'd prefer calling unless the board goes crappy.
EDIT: But one thing is certainly true: if he's folding to a flop raise you didn't want him to fold.
mike_wzrd
12-07-2004, 06:27 PM
I'm either going to fold or raise depending on my read over the first couple of orbits at the table. If I raise, then I'll bet the turn and check the river unimproved. I don't mind taking this pot down based on the turn raise. I don't understand the logic behind call, call, call in this situation.
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