Is this kind of bluff worth it?

[wheelz]

BB is TAG for the most part, but can get real tricky. He's a good player, and is definitely capable of a pure bluff, but doesn't do it too often.

Pokerchamps 2/4, 6-handed

Preflop:
Hero is in CO with As 9c
2 folds, Hero raises, Button calls, SB folds, BB 3-bets, Hero and Button call.

Flop 8h 7h 4h
BB bets, Hero calls, button folds.

Turn 2h
BB bets, Hero raises

Ugly? Too tricky? Worth it? Comments?

[Grisgra]

I don't know if it's worth it, but I will say that if you do it, make sure you fire the river bullet.

I'll try this every once in awhile against a tight player, though. But I greatly prefer doing it as a semibluff . . .

[wheelz]

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I don't know if it's worth it, but I will say that if you do it, make sure you fire the river bullet.

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I was planning on checking if he called. If he calls my raise on the turn with 4 hearts on board, what could change that might make him fold the river?

Maybe he was calling in case I was bluffing, figuring he could easily fold if I bet the river?

[joker122]

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I don't know if it's worth it, but I will say that if you do it, make sure you fire the river bullet.


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def. not. if he is a tag then a turn call means he has a decent heart (likely the J or Q here) and he's planning on showing down. the only time it would be correct is if he can fold a set on the river without filling up, but a set isn't likely based on simple probabilities.

[Grisgra]

Thought there were only three hearts. Doh! Use the pretty symbol fonts next time /images/graemlins/smile.gif.
In that case, I think the raise is iffier and, obviously, don't fire the river bullet.

[Danenania]

I'd just fold the flop. At first I thought you raised preflop then he bet into you on the flop, in which case I would like the bluff more, but the way it went calling the flop seems silly.

[wheelz]

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I'd just fold the flop. At first I thought you raised preflop then he bet into you on the flop, in which case I would like the bluff more, but the way it went calling the flop seems silly.

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That's what I meant by "is it worth it," I called the flop hoping for a card to bluff with... if he had a heart, I was losing a bunch, if he didn't, I'd take the pot. I don't know any math behind figuring out if doing that was profitable or not though. I don't think it was, but I had been raising a lot preflop lately and knew he might 3-bet me preflop with a lot of hands there, so I went for it.

[fearme]

bluffing is essential shorthanded, but dont always do it that way he cant always call u down w/ marginal holdings